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2021/22 Lucas Digne

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Neiler said:
As best we know he was ill mate. But I don’t agree it’s that simplistic. Reports afterwards said he questioned Benitez style of play and the manager used him as as a sacrificial lamb.

aThere needs to be an Alpha, I’d accept that. But the best managers can make the point, discoline them, bring the player back in line, than get the best out of them. The best managers can do that.

Digne is one of our best players, you dont sell your best players when you are going head first into a relegation battle - if you want to sell an older player do it in the summer when you are safe, he’s not that old anyway.

The lads been thrown under the bus by the manager in the media, the minute the deal was done fir the Ukrainian lad.

If you were one of our best players or prospective new player, woukd you want to play for a manager like that.
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I've said on here a fair bit that a number of players won't be able to cope/react well to a manager of Benitez style. Only earlier today.

Benitez tried to bring him back in. Chelsea. Named in the 11. Digne didn't entertain it. Whether that's on Benitez or Digne, well never know. From then on he had to go. We needed to buy a replacement.

If Benitez left tomorrow, I'd hope we don't replace him with a manager who'd come in and blow smoke up arses. I think while short term it's bad news - long term we need a major shift.

I also think it's interesting that Ancelotti spoke to Dynamo Kyiv about Mykolenko. Could suggest the club have been looking to replace Digne for a while because there's no chance we were ever paying decent money for Mykolenko without selling Digne.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
Because you'd be a mug to accept someone who did a full training day and is told he's in the 11 would then, same day, say he's too Ill to play the following day.

Come off it.
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Hear what you are saying Dan , but like the others posters are saying it all rests on what Benitez says.
As soon as i heard him say it i thought "thats a cheap shot".

Personally if Benitez said it was snowing outside i'd put me flip flops on.

Yeah players need moving on , every club does it , but there's a way to do it right and this isnt it.
 
riddick said:
I agree and disagree at the same time. We need to sell players in this day and age, especially considering our predicament with PL rules. Digne is a very good player who we should get good money for. But freezing him out like has been done is figuratively cutting off your nose to spite your face. He's STILL a good player regardless of form. If he wanted away, sure. But this is a manager saying he has ultimate authority despite this being the absolute wrong manager to give that to.
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Agree with that
 

blulouie said:
Hear what you are saying Dan , but like the others posters are saying it all rests on what Benitez says.
As soon as i heard him say it i thought "thats a cheap shot".

Personally if Benitez said it was snowing outside i'd put me flip flops on.

Yeah players need moving on , every club does it , but there's a way to do it right and this isnt it.
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Benitez kept schtum for a few games mate. Was only after Chelsea he dropped Digne in it. Probably to ensure he left because at that point, we had to sell him to pay for his replacement.
 
Stephenlloyd said:
Looks like to me gerrard is doing a koeman. Wants instant success signing players at their peak. Hoping to get into the top 7/Europe so he can jump ship to Liverpool in 2yrs.

Dangerous for Villa? Could leave them in the [Poor language removed]
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Much as I can't stand him, he tends to do well. Getting them to Europe is an objective no matter his personal agenda
 
GrandOldTeam said:
I've said on here a fair bit that a number of players won't be able to cope/react well to a manager of Benitez style. Only earlier today.

Benitez tried to bring him back in. Chelsea. Named in the 11. Digne didn't entertain it. Whether that's on Benitez or Digne, well never know. From then on he had to go. We needed to buy a replacement.

If Benitez left tomorrow, I'd hope we don't replace him with a manager who'd come in and blow smoke up arses. I think while short term it's bad news - long term we need a major shift.

I also think it's interesting that Ancelotti spoke to Dynamo Kyiv about Mykolenko. Could suggest the club have been looking to replace Digne for a while because there's no chance we were ever paying decent money for Mykolenko without selling Digne.
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Digne signed a new deal in Feb. No way Ancelotti was going to sell him.

No doubt was going to do the sensible approach...buy him as the understudy to ease him in.
 
Chrismac said:
If Digne hadnt fallen out with Benitez and had moved this window, i wouldve happily taken £25m.
Firstly, as he hasnt performed at all for us as last 12 months and is a soon to be 29 year old full back.
Secondly as it lets us spend money that we couldnt have otherwise, to improve our team in other positions where we really need it.
Should he have put in another 12 months in the same ilk as past 12 then we would be sitting here next year happy to take £15m for a soon to be 30 year old diminishing full back.
I detest Benitez but this transfer is getting put on him like its his fault and its terrible for us, when i dont think we'll be missing Digne 2022-.
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Agree Chris but I'd have said closer to £30m.

Also suspect we've overpaid or at least paid more than we could have done for his replacement.
 

blulouie said:
Hear what you are saying Dan , but like the others posters are saying it all rests on what Benitez says.
As soon as i heard him say it i thought "thats a cheap shot".

Personally if Benitez said it was snowing outside i'd put me flip flops on.

Yeah players need moving on , every club does it , but there's a way to do it right and this isnt it.
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There are other players who have been significantly worse this season than Digne. It doesn't feel like equal treatment from the manager.

And I find it hard to believe most of what Benitez says. I actually think he is trying to wind up the fans at this point.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
I've said on here a fair bit that a number of players won't be able to cope/react well to a manager of Benitez style. Only earlier today.

Benitez tried to bring him back in. Chelsea. Named in the 11. Digne didn't entertain it. Whether that's on Benitez or Digne, well never know. From then on he had to go. We needed to buy a replacement.

If Benitez left tomorrow, I'd hope we don't replace him with a manager who'd come in and blow smoke up arses. I think while short term it's bad news - long term we need a major shift.

I also think it's interesting that Ancelotti spoke to Dynamo Kyiv about Mykolenko. Could suggest the club have been looking to replace Digne for a while because there's no chance we were ever paying decent money for Mykolenko without selling Digne.
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We’l agree to differ on that mate, I don’t think we are in a position to be that proud, we are all speculating on the truth, but as I say I think we see an increasing trend of the club and media vilifying players when they want the fans to swallow a departure of a talented player.

Weve needed two left backs since Baines pulled the rug out from under us and retired. We’re heading into a battle now for 40 points, I seen no reason to minimise our quality options. Whatever about our debates on here being polarised, a good manager can man manage players, listen to what they are trying to say and foster a collective. Results have thanked since Sep, maybe deal cares about the club and had the right in questioning him, the evidence is there. Why not keep him until the summer, then cash in when we will hopefully be out of trouble. Why pruporsefully and wilfully make ourselves weaker.

Ultimately the mangers remit is to act in the best welfare of Everton football club, does this decision making stronger or weaker, more at risk or less - the winner here is the mangers ego. Not the player or the club.
 

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