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2021/22 Lucas Digne

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He’s one of the best left backs in the league and has put up numbers in terms of assists over the seasons. Let’s stop pretending he’s crap and that he doesn’t directly strengthen a rival who are looking to pull away massively from us. Shocking shocking shocking, plus 25million isn’t great considering we’ve already spent that on the replacement. I just hate this club right now, worse than Allardyce this
 
BlueToff said:
and @GrandOldTeam

Just as a point, for that Chelsea game, Benitez confirmed on the Wednesday in the presser that Digne had trained Tuesday and was in the XI but then on Wednesday had called in sick, basically.

In the Chelsea game, Rondon, Delph and Gray were all missing through illness. Gray it turned out to be COVID. We don't know about the other two.

While I know Digne didn't have COVID, if he was ill, at all, like as in even had any slight symptoms, he would have been told not to go to the training ground by Everton's staff. That's the protocol at the clubs. He would have had to get a PCR and wait at least 12 hours for the results.

Benitez played it very cleverly and very slyly, without even lying. His English isn't bad, but he chose to say "Digne said he was will, and cannot play"

Now, most of us all took that as Digne saying: "Gaffer, I'm sick and I can't play" Which given the feeling over why Digne was dropped played into Benitez's hands didn't it, as loads of fans went 'well Digne's the problem'.

When really, Benitez could easily have been saying: "He said he was ill, [therefore] he cannot play."

So it's all open for debate but back to my point (sorry for the long post) Digne would have been told not to go to the training ground if he was ill at all and there's no way he'd have then been able to travel to London?

I wish I was looking too deeply into this but Benitez is an absolute master of PR, for all his faults. He knows what to say and when to say it. He did it with the Reid thing. Because he knew he'd be able to backtrack on it and say "no, I was just using a club legend as an example" etc. I think he overplayed his hand the other day because he was trying to be a smartarse and maybe the fans booing him on Sunday had finally got to his head.
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Not convinced mate.

He looked sound on Instagram out the same day of Chelsea out shopping.
 
Deulofeumygod said:
Go and look at his play against Fulham last season with James.

Look at those first 8 games last season. He was instrumental
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Assists vs Spurs and the Kopites at home superb off the top of my head.

DCL goal tally is likely to suffer. I’d love to see the stats of Dignes involvement in Dom’s goals.
 
ValBlue said:
He’s one of the best left backs in the league and has put up numbers in terms of assists over the seasons. Let’s stop pretending he’s crap and that he doesn’t directly strengthen a rival who are looking to pull away massively from us. Shocking shocking shocking, plus 25million isn’t great considering we’ve already spent that on the replacement. I just hate this club right now, worse than Allardyce this
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He was brilliant his first two seasons.

Pretty poor since.

Good player but all considered - I'd sell for £30m even if Ancelotti was still here.

Only thing is I'd have thought we'd be able to buy a replacement for less.

I'd also have hoped Niels could perhaps do a job.
 

GrandOldTeam said:
He was brilliant his first two seasons.

Pretty poor since.

Good player but all considered - I'd sell for £30m even if Ancelotti was still here.

Only thing is I'd have thought we'd be able to buy a replacement for less.

I'd also have hoped Niels could perhaps do a job.
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Oh no so I agree with you there - 30 million and I’d be happy with the deal, it’s being quoted currently as 20-25 so I’m very much not happy. We spent 17 on him - are we saying his value hasn’t gone up more than 3 million in the time since he’s been here? We always get the bum end of the deal
 
ValBlue said:
Oh no so I agree with you there - 30 million and I’d be happy with the deal, it’s being quoted currently as 20-25 so I’m very much not happy. We spent 17 on him - are we saying his value hasn’t gone up more than 3 million in the time since he’s been here? We always get the bum end of the deal
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We'll see. I've read reports saying we want £30m

I reckon it'll end up going for £25m

Issue is, we got him at the right age and with a very decent pedigree behind him.

Fans on here would be fuming if we was trying to sign Lucas Digne today for a lot of money and a big wage.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
Not convinced mate.

He looked sound on Instagram out the same day of Chelsea out shopping.
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He was excellent a couple of seasons ago but his propensity to give away stupid fouls in the past few years has been very frustrating. His previous ability to whip in great crosses has also been missing.
 
ValBlue said:
He’s one of the best left backs in the league and has put up numbers in terms of assists over the seasons. Let’s stop pretending he’s crap and that he doesn’t directly strengthen a rival who are looking to pull away massively from us. Shocking shocking shocking, plus 25million isn’t great considering we’ve already spent that on the replacement. I just hate this club right now, worse than Allardyce this
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Given his age 25m is honestly fine
 

GrandOldTeam said:
We'll see. I've read reports saying we want £30m

I reckon it'll end up going for £25m

Issue is, we got him at the right age and with a very decent pedigree behind him.

Fans on here would be fuming if we was trying to sign Lucas Digne today for a lot of money and a big wage.
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It's not a signing I'd want to see us make. But he's already here so selling him is also not great. 25m makes it reasonable.
 
BlueToff said:
Bernardo Silva has said he wants to leave City for the past two seasons.
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Good example, a better manager could disagree with Digne about tactics and then get him back on side without things descending to the embarrassing circus we’ve seen. It’s not about blowing smoke up his arse or being weak, the art of man management and people leadership - it’s a big gap in Rafael’s skill set.
 
….at one point I thought he was as good as any, his defending improved, he’s actually decent in the air, terrific on the ball and delivers a telling cross.

To me, form seemed to dip with the new contract which often happens. That is a concern.

No idea what has gone on with Benitez, sounds like two ego’s have collided and I suppose we can all take sides. The reported income being generated certainly covers the replacement but only time will tell if we are stronger or weaker as a team.

Digne will get a new contract on at least what he was here and take circa £2m from the fee. Not a bad old life. I doubt many give him a warm reception, he’s just something that happened.

Mykolenko doesn’t now sound like a Benitez signing, makes me wonder if things have truly changed with Brand’s departure other than Benitez changing things from the bottom up for Moshiri.
 
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BlueToff said:
Yeah me and Ryan disagree on a lot and Christ he can come across badly sometimes (without meaning to) but he's been right on the Digne narrative.

I've got no issue with people saying he's been below par this season, or even in 2021, as long as they can factor other things in. Like I can say that Benitez has been poor but he's been unlucky with injuries, for example.

The sudden narrative Digne has been crap for 18 months or 2 years, as I've seen from some people is just pure balls, and exactly what Evertonians do all the time when a player is about to leave.
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Ryan blocked me
Last year because I called him out a number of times. Obviously he’s been a big a fan of iwobi

I bet if you go through his tweets over the years, he’s shouting from the roof tops, we should sign young playes with sell on value.
Well we’re selling Digne at 28 nearly 29 and who on a big wage.

We need to sell players and he’s the most obvious option at the moment.
Yes hopefully we can raise money form fringe players this month and in the summer. But I don’t have an issue selling Digne, we need new players into squad
 

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