Manny HATERS!

[ToxtethBlue]

I think Fellini is our boy here mate i really do, hes not the player he is going to be yet but the sign praticularly against Newcastle were good and at 20 now hel go far. His use of space and showing for the ball was significantly better and hes a big lump of a nuisence, what i liked that when he was on the ball he found his man very well simply. Thats the name of the game, i think he has more in his licker as he showed some cutting balls and vision in the derby but think Moyes told him to keep it simpe for the Newcastle game. He needs more coaching and adjustment and some work on his overall fittness but for Raw potential i think we have a good one here.

Im a confirmed Manny fan, but not all misty eyed he could do something that would infureate you or make ridiculous attemps to pass, that said quality wins you games. The balance isnt right. But Fellini for me is an excellent addition for the future i rate him highly on the raw talent and potential hes developed, ok its not wholly visable but if your into spotting potential its there in abundance. Roy Keane became a legend playing exactly the same way as Fellini does, now im not saying that hes of the standard Keane was in his pomp but i followed Keanes progress since he was 17 and there ability and potential are about level when Keane was 20 as Fellini's is now, i know alot will say that Fellini isnt a DM midfileder but neither was Keane when you study his game he just understood the game so well and set the of tone of Utds game and kept them ticking he was more box to box as i beleive Fellini will be for us.

Ha ha like i say a DM before Manny!

Fernandes for me is alot more talented. If they are competing for the creative/attacking midfield role which is the case Fernandes wins everytime. He's just more natural and alot better at that role.

I like Fellaini but he isn't anything special, he doesn't have anything that makes you stand on your feet and admire. He'll be a good player but I have no doubts the likes of Fernandes, Moutinho, Huddlestone etc would've been better options.

I've done nothing but stick up for Fellaini and praise him, Fernandes is better though. No question about it.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

Fernandes for me is alot more talented. If they are competing for the creative/attacking midfield role which is the case Fernandes wins everytime. He's just more natural and alot better at that role.

I like Fellaini but he isn't anything special, he doesn't have anything that makes you stand on your feet and admire. He'll be a good player but I have no doubts the likes of Fernandes, Moutinho, Huddlestone etc would've been better options.

I've done nothing but stick up for Fellaini and praise him, Fernandes is better though. No question about it.

Please tb stop it right their!! Are you smoking [Poor language removed] rocks or somthing.

Huddlestone is one of the shittest players iv ever seen in the prem, an that includes Fernandes. Please mate if you want us to take you serious. Stop with that [Poor language removed].

To Huddlestone is better than Fellaini makes me think your thinking is way,way,way off!!

 

[ToxtethBlue]

Please tb stop it right their!! Are you smoking [Poor language removed] rocks or somthing.

Huddlestone is one of the shittest players iv ever seen in the prem, an that includes Fernandes. Please mate if you want us to take you serious. Stop with that [Poor language removed].

To Huddlestone is better than Fellaini makes me think your thinking is way,way,way off!!

Better, maybe not. More natural to the role, without a doubt.

Huddlestone last season assisted 12 goals in about 25-30 games, that alone shows how creative the lad is. He also scored 5 goals, not [Poor language removed] at all to be honest.

He isn't [Poor language removed], he's raw yes but he's far from [Poor language removed]. He's never been given a run of games at Spurs, he's never been given a chance to build momentuem. Young players need that and especially big players like Huddlestone who need to build there fitness.

You have to be realistic Sharpy, they are all young players.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

Better, maybe not. More natural to the role, without a doubt.

Huddlestone last season assisted 12 goals in about 25-30 games, that alone shows how creative the lad is. He also scored 5 goals, not [Poor language removed] at all to be honest.

He isn't [Poor language removed], he's raw yes but he's far from [Poor language removed]. He's never been given a run of games at Spurs, he's never been given a chance to build momentuem. Young players need that and especially big players like Huddlestone who need to build there fitness.

You have to be realistic Sharpy, they are all young players.

Is their any one that you think is not that good. You seem to like every one. You seem one of these guys were everything is great!! i just say as i see....

An Huddlestone is not that good. IMO. He's [Poor language removed] now so i say it, nothing to do with the future. Because that i don't know. I talk about now. You......years to come!!

Plus just because your young, doesn't mean your going to be good....

Branch,barlow,cadamatri the list is endless.

 

[zero]

Huddlestone has been in the Premiership alot longer then Fellaini so he knows what it's all about.

So far the only thing I can see to Huddlestone's game is a sublime range of passing...and that's it. He's lazy, he's slow, he can't tackle and is prone to disappearing in games. Alot like Fellaini is now, except he's had a handful of games compared to Huddlestones 2-3 years in the premiership.

 

[Neiler]

Better, maybe not. More natural to the role, without a doubt.

Huddlestone last season assisted 12 goals in about 25-30 games, that alone shows how creative the lad is. He also scored 5 goals, not [Poor language removed] at all to be honest.

He isn't [Poor language removed], he's raw yes but he's far from [Poor language removed]. He's never been given a run of games at Spurs, he's never been given a chance to build momentuem. Young players need that and especially big players like Huddlestone who need to build there fitness.

You have to be realistic Sharpy, they are all young players.

Mate i think your not thinking outside the box in this one, i dont think Huddlestone is a bad player but i dont think hes worth what his potential transfer fee would dictate or make the signifcant impact on the squad you do.

I think your trying to work out what Fellini is a DM or an Am for me hes neither hes going to be box to box and contribute to both, hes going to be the bridge imo to turn over play form defence to attack and as i say have a role in either, i think its important wed ont label either or DM or AM because he will be promarily neither like i say he will keep us ticking over and hopefully dictate our pace, tone and play in the midfeild the signs were good against Newcastle and i was encouraged in terms of his communication with others when it came to all things passing through his area of play.

Like i say Fellinis value will be in turning over our play and being the bridgeing player in our side from defence to attack and contribute to both, the reason hes such a gem form that point of view is that there are not many players around these days who can do that or at least have the potential to be that type of player.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

Is their ant one that you think is not that good. You seem to like every one. You seem one of these guys were everything is great!! i just say as i see....

An Huddlestone is not that good. IMO. He's [Poor language removed] now so i say it, nothing to do with the future. Because that i don't know. I talk about now. You......years to come!!

Plus just because your young, doesn't mean your going to be good....

Branch,barlow,cadamatri the list is endless.

I say what I see, I'm realistic with every player.

I've seen Huddlestone have some shockers but I've also seem him dominate and control some games with his passing and willingness to get on the ball and make things happen.

It's quite clear he's very talented. Very few players can pass like he does, very few players can strike a ball like he does.

I talk about the future because they are young players, young players improve the more they play and they gain consistency. Look at Osman for example, he looked [Poor language removed] at times but you could see there was talent there. It was just about finding him a role and getting him consistency, we did that and he's now a little gem in my opinion.

The likes of Cadamateri and Branch never did anything, they showed glympses and then faded away dramtically. Huddlestone has proven himself in the Prem, he's also looked very good in the Uefa cup. Fernandes has dominated games in the Champions League, he's won trophies in Portugal and he's an international.

There's a big difference between the likes of Branch/Cadmateri and Fernandes/Huddlestone/Fellaini.

If Huddlestone was so [Poor language removed] he wouldn't do anything or have an impact on any games. That's not the case though, naturally he's one of the most creative players in the League. 12 assists in 20 odd games proves this.

 

[zero]

If Huddlestone was so [Poor language removed] he wouldn't do anything or have an impact on any games. That's not the case though, naturally he's one of the most creative players in the League. 12 assists in 20 odd games proves this.

All that proves is that he can pass a ball, how would he fare with the Goodison crowd on his back slagging him off for his dire workrate. In my opinion, Huddlestone is alright, nothing special though... I definitely wouldn't be as naive as to say he's better then Fellaini who has yet to have a full season under his belt.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

All that proves is that he can pass a ball, how would he fare with the Goodison crowd on his back slagging him off for his dire workrate. In my opinion, Huddlestone is alright, nothing special though... I definitely wouldn't be as naive as to say he's better then Fellaini who has yet to have a full season under his belt.

It proves he's got talent, it proves he has the ability to make things happen and have impact on games at the highest level.

I didn't say he was better. Is he more natural and more effective in the attacking midfield role than Fellaini? Without a doubt.

 

[Goat]

How many of Huddlestones assists was a simple ball to Keane or Berbatov who then did all the hard work, sometimes assist figures dont tell the whole story, IMO hes fat and useless, but we all have different views on players.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

Not trying to have a go at you TB.But you seem to be tripping yourself up a bit here.

I have no doubts the likes of Fernandes, Moutinho, Huddlestone etc would've been better options.

An then say!!

I didn't say he was better.

If you think he was a better option. Then you must think he's a better player.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

Not trying to have a go at you TB.But you seem to be tripping yourself up a bit here.



An then say!!



If you think he was a better option. Then you must think he's a better player.

Better option for that role. Huddlestone would give us more in the attacking midfield role.

It's just like saying who's better Carsley or Fabregas, Fabregas by a mile but I'd rather have Carsley in the defensive midfield role.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

Mate i think your not thinking outside the box in this one, i dont think Huddlestone is a bad player but i dont think hes worth what his potential transfer fee would dictate or make the signifcant impact on the squad you do.

I think your trying to work out what Fellini is a DM or an Am for me hes neither hes going to be box to box and contribute to both, hes going to be the bridge imo to turn over play form defence to attack and as i say have a role in either, i think its important wed ont label either or DM or AM because he will be promarily neither like i say he will keep us ticking over and hopefully dictate our pace, tone and play in the midfeild the signs were good against Newcastle and i was encouraged in terms of his communication with others when it came to all things passing through his area of play.

Like i say Fellinis value will be in turning over our play and being the bridgeing player in our side from defence to attack and contribute to both, the reason hes such a gem form that point of view is that there are not many players around these days who can do that or at least have the potential to be that type of player.

Box to box means you can do both roles, Fellaini judging by the games he's played can't. I'm willing to give him time but from what I've seen he's not excellent at either.

He gets bypassed as easily as Fernandes defensively, he's not particularly mobile and he shits out of tackles. His touch and technique is good, he's not going to dictate a game though. Not a chance, he just doesn't half enough passing ability to do that. He doesn't have the quality on the ball either.

He looks like a tidy player at the moment, very similar to Leon Osman. He's going to be a good player, I can't see him being a player who's going to move us to the next level.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

Better option for that role. Huddlestone would give us more in the attacking midfield role.

It's just like saying who's better Carsley or Fabregas, Fabregas by a mile but I'd rather have Carsley in the defensive midfield role.

Why the hell would we need more in the attacking midfield roll. We have Cahill,Arteta,Osman an Pienaar. So how would Huddlestone be a better option. We needed more of a Centre mid or Defencive mid. An thats what we got!!

I don't get were your coming from mate. How is Huddlestone a better option?.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

Why the hell would we need more in the attacking minfield roll. We have Cahill,Arteta,Osman an Pienaar. So how would Huddlestone be a better option. We needed more of a Centre mid or Defencive mid. An thats what we got!!

I don't get were your coming from mate.

The role Fellaini is playing at the moment is attacking, if you can't see that then you need to open your eyes. Moyes said this week that he's more of a Cahill than a Carsley, he's been bought as a box to box, attacking player.

Cahill plays as a second striker, Pienaar and Arteta play on the wings. None of them play the attacking central role for us. All the best sides have creativity in every midfield area. On the wings and in the middle, it's a must if you want to control games.

As an attacking creative midfielder Huddlestone would've been the best option, he's more creative and attacking minded. If Fellaini had been bought to protect the back four I'd rather have had him, it's quite clear he hasn't been.