Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
Cannot recall, even in the darkest days of our EX.
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Cannot recall, even in the darkest days of our EX.
Seanjd
Player Valuation: £30m
I think the media would have a field day if he did that though. There would be more negativity than there is and it would give them more of a reason to get on our backs which wouldn't be helpful. I can understand his constant looking for positives thing, he has to do it.
No way would Moyes have us sitting in 12th, not with that squad.
ijjysmith
Calm
I'm exaggerating a little mate.
More along the lines of just saying we could do better rather than 'phenomenal effort'.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
You could argue that that squad would not have been assembled by Moyes.
If you don't like my style of posting Tubey...feel free to block me.
To be fair, he has a point.
I don't like it. Don't make me block you...
Now, back on topic. Thanks.
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
Del
Ric Wee fan club member 2014
He's not as good as Rodgers is the easy answer
sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
Theyve got a much more creative side, we only have a couple and when there all shot of confidence we've got no one fresh to come in
paulbefc
Player Valuation: £60m
There's pretty much nothing bar relegation, in terms of on-pitch footballing factors, that could make me want him out this season. It wouldn't surprise me all if we end up looking back at this point in his reign and wondering why so many of us couldn't have had a little more patience. Many great managers have gone through grim patches in their careers.
This fella has already won a major trophy with a terrible side. He broke our PL points tally record and signed Romelu Lukaku and James McCarthy. If you'd have told me we'd convince a player as talented and ambitious as Lukaku to join us permanently within a year back in June 2013, I'd have laughed tbh. Martinez did a lot for us in a very short period of time and his high potential as a manager is undeniable.
Unfortunately, he has managed to bring us back as many steps, this season, as he managed to bring us forward last. I see this season as negating a lot of, if not all the good work he's done and eroding most of, if not all the goodwill he built up. I am now (putting Europe to one side) just waiting for it to end so he can start working on sorting this mess out. We still have a lot going for us, so he has a good chance, but the summer will be his last chance to get us on an upward trajectory again. Pre-season has to be more like the one in 2013. Real opponents and hard work for the players. We also have to look at getting any player that isn't fully committed out of the club and replace them with lads who want to be here.
I think we should then give him a reasonable amount of time at the start of next season to show some convincing green shoots of recovery and I believe he'll deliver.
This fella has already won a major trophy with a terrible side. He broke our PL points tally record and signed Romelu Lukaku and James McCarthy. If you'd have told me we'd convince a player as talented and ambitious as Lukaku to join us permanently within a year back in June 2013, I'd have laughed tbh. Martinez did a lot for us in a very short period of time and his high potential as a manager is undeniable.
Unfortunately, he has managed to bring us back as many steps, this season, as he managed to bring us forward last. I see this season as negating a lot of, if not all the good work he's done and eroding most of, if not all the goodwill he built up. I am now (putting Europe to one side) just waiting for it to end so he can start working on sorting this mess out. We still have a lot going for us, so he has a good chance, but the summer will be his last chance to get us on an upward trajectory again. Pre-season has to be more like the one in 2013. Real opponents and hard work for the players. We also have to look at getting any player that isn't fully committed out of the club and replace them with lads who want to be here.
I think we should then give him a reasonable amount of time at the start of next season to show some convincing green shoots of recovery and I believe he'll deliver.
Yeah 15th at best.
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