OnlyBlueWillDo
Player Valuation: £35m
It's stipulated in the deal he did, he can take his shareholding to 75% once there is a start on the Stadium build.
Moshiri has the final say at this club right now, Bill won't go against him.
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Moshiri has the final say at this club right now, Bill won't go against him.
Oh I agree, it should be 65k, at least, I just think most weeks it wouldnt be full, thats all.
We need 65k to show ambition, future proofing at 65k is ok, but building a 55k and saying its future proof is bolloxs, we will be paying the stadium off for a long, long time, we probably wont be able to afford the improvements in the future, so IMO future proofing would be a fallacy.
Im not sure anybody knows the stipulations concerning the triggers for Moshiri to increase his shareholding.
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
Apologies, I misunderstood. Yeah, 65k would be hard to fill for all League games. Of course success would change everything.
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
- We sell out a 39,000 stadium every league game in a stadium with 4,000 obstructed viewing seats and overall woeful facilities.
- We have a waiting list of 10,000 people who are potentially interested in purchasing a season ticket.
- Every single newly built stadium in the Premier League has seen a % increase in the number of people attending games. Would we really buck that trend?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Building a 55k stadium will be a lot cheaper to building a 65k stadium (less than 55k cheaper still).
Funding is obviously the problem here rather than any view that the club couldn't fill the stadium regularly with some fairly moderate success on the pitch.
OnlyBlueWillDo
Player Valuation: £35m
It was made public when he bought his shares, Moshiri wanted a controlling stake, Bill wouldn't give him that until the Stadium was 100% done, as soon as we start building the stadium he will have the option to take his holding to a controlling majority stake.
But he's running this club right now anyway.
OnlyBlueWillDo
Player Valuation: £35m
With sensible pricing I think we could easily start getting 55k for home games, makes a big difference having a brand spanking new stadium to attend, will encourage a lot more ticket sales for sure.
Davideeyore
Player Valuation: £30m
It bugs me not just the club, but our own supporters.
People just don't have belief that we can fill a stadium maybe in excess of 50,000. They forget we are big club. Say that again we are a big club.
I'd argue that every new stadium has a "pull". Sunderland went from Roker Park around 20,000 to 47,000. Arsenal from 38,000 to 60k. Tottenham from 36,000 to 61-62,000. Many more examples Southampton, West Ham, Bolton. Chelsea will be on their way. City already building to 60k I think.
Now maybe rubbish on the pitch and relegations can leave a new stadium half full with empty seats, can't disagree with that. But if we aim to be better on the pitch (yeah attractive winning football bit far fetched) then we'll retain the crowds.
New stadium bounce whatever it is. But Everton can get big crowds.
The club need's someone with vision and a sense of where Everton should be. Fcuk this Elstone guy off.
AndyC
Player Valuation: £70m
Don't disagree with the sentiment, but leave out the disguised bad language eh?
It wasnt made public, nothing has ever been confirmed regarding the triggers.
Some think its the stadium, others think there was a time limit, it could even be something else, whatever it is, hopefully it happens very soon.
paulbefc
Player Valuation: £60m
All of those points come with considerable caveats though. Our home support has been ace recently, but it wasn't long ago we got something like 32k for a game against City. We were crap at the time, it should be noted, but we've not got quite the same record in selling out our stadium as Spurs had at WHL, for example. I'd also hold fire on this one until seeing how the Allardyce situation pans out, as this could see a lot of the optimism the new takeover brought about evaporate very quickly.
To your second point, how reliable is a 10k waiting list? How many of those will actually stump up the hundreds of pounds and the hours out of their weekends when given the opportunity at short notice?
To your third, I have absolutely no doubts we'd average more than 40k at a new stadium, both short and long-term. It's when the numbers go into the mid-to-high 50s I have doubts, holding performance on the pitch constant.
I'm not putting forward any idea I have as fact, just questioning those that are.
jonnyboy316
Player Valuation: £35m
You start to lose atmosphere in bigger stadiums. We might get better results on the pitch with a smaller stadium that generates a better atmosphere
MrGrumpy
Player Valuation: £50m
Think Elstones a total buffoon tbh, we will never get the funding with him as CEO, the man made a song and dance about 6m Chang deal when the other sides were getting 10mil plus, the deal with Kit bag is terrible, even the Sportpesa deals turned in to a farce with not 1 but 2 apologises of them. Our commercial demand needs a over haul starting with small time Elstone
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £35m
Are they? I must've missed that bit. I seen somebody surmise that it was 50-52k but nothing whatsoever from anybody that would know.