Agreed. Soft spot for my Iggles fans. Not easy to be one, but it could be worse. Could be the Jets.
Could be us down here in Jax. It ain't easy, lord you know it ain't easy.
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Agreed. Soft spot for my Iggles fans. Not easy to be one, but it could be worse. Could be the Jets.
Could be us down here in Jax. It ain't easy, lord you know it ain't easy.
Id be keen to join one of its going. I do the official NFL one but easy really.
I think we've done this before, but we should revise and republish the GOT guide to American Football teams. Here's a start:
New England Patriots: the best coach and best QB in the league (both maybe all time), and a great American City. If you can stomach being a glory-hunter, they may continue to deliver for a few years
Dallas Cowboys: if you're a Kopite or a Texan, this is your team. Otherwise, steer clear
Pittsburgh Steelers: a truly respectable team with a hard-working fanbase and some of the best owners in the game; three coaches for 48 years shows their amazing stability and success, and each of these three has won a Super Bowl
New York Giants: biggest team in the Big Apple, and old-school team with old-school ownership
New York Jets: if you like pre-Mansour City, are Mikey Fitzgerald, or are a younger sibling that misses the abuse you got as a kid, this is your team.
Seattle Seahawks: a middling team for years, rebranded with a new coach, new stadium, and recent success. A tough squad and exciting team to watch in the loudest stadium in the US
Chicago Bears: Truly great, original team, with some fabulous history and one of the best uniforms. Really terrible squad now. Not familiar with their management, but hopefully they can turn it around
Cleveland Browns: An original team with a great/terrible kit (depends on what you think of orange/brown), has been mediocre for longer than I've been alive
Cincinnati Bengals: one of the worst kits in the league, joke of a team for a long time, but with a few really good players and seemingly on the cusp of success
San Francisco 49ers: Had one of the best teams in the 80s-90s, but current owners make Mike Ashley look like Sheik Mansour. This is a dumpster fire waiting to be lit
Oakland/Los Angeles/Oakland/Las Vegas Raiders: If you could merge West Ham and Newcastle into one American Football team, this is who you'd get; they actually have a few really talented players on the roster right now and things are looking up, but just like that awkward tattoo or unfortunate piercing, is this something you really want to do to yourself?
Philadelphia Eagles: If Millwall were an NFL team, they might be the Iggles; Philly has a unique fanbase (not bad, just unique) and they are loyal to their Iggles
Washington Redskins: they were one of the dominant franchises in the 80s and 90s and have been irrelevant for years with a terrible, meddling owner; if you could fall in love with a combination of Randy Lerner's knowledge of the game with Bill Kenwright's ability to close the deal, or if you really like the Leeds model, these are your lot
New Orleans Saints: probably a bit like Leicester, caught lightning in a bottle recently and had a tremendous run to be Super Bowl XLIV champs, but are they really anything more than the lovable 'Aints? Who dat...?
Indianapolis Colts: probably much like the Saints, but with a worse owner and less general hope; also the scum who uprooted from Baltimore to move in the middle of the night
Baltimore Ravens: probably the only expansion club worth following, Rog Bennett describes Baltimore as the "Liverpool of America," a working class City with a lot of good and bad in it at the same time; good ownership and management, but can you support a team wearing purple (and really, how much can one care about Edgar Allen Poe?)
Miami Dolphins: do you like long summer nights, Sperry topsiders, and music without words? Let me introduce you to Ryan Tannehill...
Green Bay Packers & Kansas City Chiefs: middle America, old-school clubs with great support that do it right and sometimes win. The Pack have better players, but these two (in my mind) are similar, and both great teams to support.
Denver Broncos: take the two above, add in a little more recent success and a better place to live and visit, but take away the clubs's great cultural history and you have the Broncos; also, if you're really into zone blocking running schemes, this is your team (also: seek help)
Arizona (formerly St Louis) Cardinals & Los Angeles (formerly St Louis and Los Angeles) Rams: I support MK Dons but not really into the Raiders cosplay thing
Los Angeles (formerly San Diego) Chargers: Are you a Hull supporter in need of a tan? I've got a team for you!
Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Houston Texans, Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: if you want a "support your local team" feel but couldn't be arsed to pick any other team, pick one of these
Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, & Buffalo Bills: much like the New Orleans Saints or Detroit Lions, but without any success; the Bills notably lost four consecutive Super Bowls, for what it's worth
Atlanta Falcons: much like the Saints, Lions, and Bills, but without any real reason to support the local team or any general reason to live; but if you want to see America's best can't be arsed about my local team, Atlanta is your place to be* (*not to be confused with rabid support for college football; also, maybe some personal bias against them, but the facts are plain and stand)
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If that's not all of them, I'm not sure the others matter. Please edit and revise as fits.
New England Patriots: the best coach and best QB in the league (both maybe all time), and a great American City. If you can stomach being a glory-hunter, they may continue to deliver for a few years
Dallas Cowboys: if you're a Kopite or a Texan, this is your team. Otherwise, steer clear
Pittsburgh Steelers: a truly respectable team with a hard-working fanbase and some of the best owners in the game; three coaches for 48 years shows their amazing stability and success, and each of these three has won a Super Bowl
New York Giants: biggest team in the Big Apple, and old-school team with old-school ownership
New York Jets: if you like pre-Mansour City, are Mikey Fitzgerald, or are a younger sibling that misses the abuse you got as a kid, this is your team.
Seattle Seahawks: a middling team for years, rebranded with a new coach, new stadium, and recent success. A tough squad and exciting team to watch in the loudest stadium in the US
Chicago Bears: Truly great, original team, with some fabulous history and one of the best uniforms. Really terrible squad now. Not familiar with their management, but hopefully they can turn it around
Cleveland Browns: An original team with a great/terrible kit (depends on what you think of orange/brown), has been mediocre for longer than I've been alive
Cincinnati Bengals: one of the worst kits in the league, joke of a team for a long time, but with a few really good players and seemingly on the cusp of success
San Francisco 49ers: Had one of the best teams in the 80s-90s, but current owners make Mike Ashley look like Sheik Mansour. This is a dumpster fire waiting to be lit
Oakland/Los Angeles/Oakland/Las Vegas Raiders: If you could merge West Ham and Newcastle into one American Football team, this is who you'd get; they actually have a few really talented players on the roster right now and things are looking up, but just like that awkward tattoo or unfortunate piercing, is this something you really want to do to yourself?
Philadelphia Eagles: If Millwall were an NFL team, they might be the Iggles; Philly has a unique fanbase (not bad, just unique) and they are loyal to their Iggles
Washington Redskins: they were one of the dominant franchises in the 80s and 90s and have been irrelevant for years with a terrible, meddling owner; if you could fall in love with a combination of Randy Lerner's knowledge of the game with Bill Kenwright's ability to close the deal, or if you really like the Leeds model, these are your lot
New Orleans Saints: probably a bit like Leicester, caught lightning in a bottle recently and had a tremendous run to be Super Bowl XLIV champs, but are they really anything more than the lovable 'Aints? Who dat...?
Indianapolis Colts: probably much like the Saints, but with a worse owner and less general hope; also the scum who uprooted from Baltimore to move in the middle of the night
Baltimore Ravens: probably the only expansion club worth following, Rog Bennett describes Baltimore as the "Liverpool of America," a working class City with a lot of good and bad in it at the same time; good ownership and management, but can you support a team wearing purple (and really, how much can one care about Edgar Allen Poe?)
Miami Dolphins: do you like long summer nights, Sperry topsiders, and music without words? Let me introduce you to Ryan Tannehill...
Green Bay Packers & Kansas City Chiefs: middle America, old-school clubs with great support that do it right and sometimes win. The Pack have better players, but these two (in my mind) are similar, and both great teams to support.
Denver Broncos: take the two above, add in a little more recent success and a better place to live and visit, but take away the clubs's great cultural history and you have the Broncos; also, if you're really into zone blocking running schemes, this is your team (also: seek help)
Arizona (formerly St Louis) Cardinals & Los Angeles (formerly St Louis and Los Angeles) Rams: I support MK Dons but not really into the Raiders cosplay thing
Los Angeles (formerly San Diego) Chargers: Are you a Hull supporter in need of a tan? I've got a team for you!
Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Houston Texans, Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: if you want a "support your local team" feel but couldn't be arsed to pick any other team, pick one of these
Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, & Buffalo Bills: much like the New Orleans Saints or Detroit Lions, but without any success; the Bills notably lost four consecutive Super Bowls, for what it's worth
Atlanta Falcons: much like the Saints, Lions, and Bills, but without any real reason to support the local team or any general reason to live; but if you want to see America's best can't be arsed about my local team, Atlanta is your place to be* (*not to be confused with rabid support for college football; also, maybe some personal bias against them, but the facts are plain and stand)
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If that's not all of them, I'm not sure the others matter. Please edit and revise as fits.
Do you even need to ask which team is Everton.. it's the People's Club (OK, you need another clue.. they play in Green and Gold on the Frozen Tundra and they've got an awesome level of support and a great history and play in a fantastic stadium.)
P.S. Don't EVER let a Kopite convince you that Vince Lombardi and Bill Shankly were separated at birth - the former was a legend whereas the latter just used to chat s... (and copy Vince's words).
P.S. Don't EVER let a Kopite convince you that Vince Lombardi and Bill Shankly were separated at birth - the former was a legend whereas the latter just used to chat s... (and copy Vince's words).
Yeah no worries. I'm away at the minute so can't get onto the NFL site to see we had in it last to start seeing if anyone wants back in or not.
Once I get back I'll try and box it, see if we can get some numbers.
Really good this Mr Nigh.
Knew we had a separate* thread for it: https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/potential-got-nfl-fantasy-league.78242/page-28
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Meanwhile, in Cleveland:
The Browns’ home stadium may have been constructed using a material investigators believe could be responsible for a massive apartment building fire in London last month, according to the Associated Press.
Promotional brochures for Reynobond aluminum panels made by Arconic Inc. say the paneling was installed on FirstEnergy Stadium in Cleveland, a Baltimore hotel, Alaska high school, Dallas airport, Denver office building and other buildings. It isn’t clear whether the stadium, or the other structures, were actually built with the Reynobond panels because in many cases building records are incomplete. A spokesman for Cleveland’s mayor did not specify to the AP whether the stadium was built with the material in question.
The paneling was installed at the 24-story Grenfell Tower apartment complex in London that went up in flames in June, killing at least 80 people.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/07/20/browns-firstenergy-stadium-cladding-grenfell-tower-fire-risk
Well, of course. It is the Browns.
The Browns’ home stadium may have been constructed using a material investigators believe could be responsible for a massive apartment building fire in London last month, according to the Associated Press.
Promotional brochures for Reynobond aluminum panels made by Arconic Inc. say the paneling was installed on FirstEnergy Stadium in Cleveland, a Baltimore hotel, Alaska high school, Dallas airport, Denver office building and other buildings. It isn’t clear whether the stadium, or the other structures, were actually built with the Reynobond panels because in many cases building records are incomplete. A spokesman for Cleveland’s mayor did not specify to the AP whether the stadium was built with the material in question.
The paneling was installed at the 24-story Grenfell Tower apartment complex in London that went up in flames in June, killing at least 80 people.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/07/20/browns-firstenergy-stadium-cladding-grenfell-tower-fire-risk
Well, of course. It is the Browns.
Guilty to all the above. If I wasn't in Jax, I'd still be a Dolfan. It's a fair cop. Hate 'em now, rivalry and contempt (theirs) and all that.
(looks down at Topsiders on feet.)
Question to the other NFL-a-holics. Do we want to start a yearly NFL thread like the MLB thread? We're dragging pages along like the Kopite ridicule thread or Sir Landon of Donovan by now.
Thoughts? If we start one, I think el Serenissimo should start it. @SerenityNigh
Thoughts? If we start one, I think el Serenissimo should start it. @SerenityNigh
How things have changed. Go back 18 years and Bill Simmons used to refer to the Pats as the Fredo (Corleone) of the Boston sports scene. Agree, massively swerve unless you have a direct tie to New England, as everyone will hate you. And the Awesome Train might only have a couple more seasons left before the Pats are middling again and reviled.
That said, I'm enjoying every freaking minute of the BB/TB partnership. Still remember pulling over on the drive home after they beat the Rams thinking "holy [bad words removed], the [moar bad words] won the [even moar bad words] Super Bowl." To put the ride from my perspective into comparison, it'd basically be like if Mosh (Robert Kraft), Ron Koeman (Bill "Darth Hoody" Belichick) and Tom Davies (the blue TB12? Emerge from nowhere, unseat a hero? spitballing) were to win 5 titles in the next 16 years for Everton.
We should and do it @Garrick style
2017 - National Football League Super Phenominal Gridiron Thread Extraorinaire
Or something like that. I know the USMT threads drive the locals up the wall.
How things have changed. Go back 18 years and Bill Simmons used to refer to the Pats as the Fredo (Corleone) of the Boston sports scene. Agree, massively swerve unless you have a direct tie to New England, as everyone will hate you. And the Awesome Train might only have a couple more seasons left before the Pats are middling again and reviled.
That said, I'm enjoying every freaking minute of the BB/TB partnership. Still remember pulling over on the drive home after they beat the Rams thinking "holy [bad words removed], the [moar bad words] won the [even moar bad words] Super Bowl." To put the ride from my perspective into comparison, it'd basically be like if Mosh (Robert Kraft), Ron Koeman (Bill "Darth Hoody" Belichick) and Tom Davies (the blue TB12? Emerge from nowhere, unseat a hero? spitballing) were to win 5 titles in the next 16 years for Everton.
S'truth. Before the current run, Boston football history was summed up by one horrendous Super Bowl defeat (see Steve Grogan sitting on the ground with his helmet on sideways), Gino Cappelletti, and a nightclub fire in the '30's. And the romance of the old stadium... (cement on concrete on top of cement enclosing plastic turf - bring on that snowplow for the FG attempt)
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