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Would it be too controversial to mention that when he hit her they were engaged, and have since been married?

I dunno...obviously she has forgiven him. Not condoning the action like...but if she can forgive him...
 
Can't watch American football any longer. The concussion stuff makes me sick when I think about it...I'd be damned if I let my son play (American) football when he gets older so I'm not comfortable watching other people's kids slowly kill themselves for my own entertainment.

I don't judge other people for enjoying it, since I do know that this is a choice that the players make, but I just can't get behind it. Especially not with so much that turns my stomach.

The Ray Rice thing is endemic to the NFL only caring about the product on the field and the brand (f'ed that up this time). And the NCAA is probably worse.

FIFA and the PL aren't much better, but at least the players aren't killing themselves (or if they are it's not nearly so brutal/savage...I know too many headers at a young age has also been linked with CTE).

Luckily I was never a massive fan, so it was easy to kick the habit for me.
 
Can't watch American football any longer. The concussion stuff makes me sick when I think about it...I'd be damned if I let my son play (American) football when he gets older so I'm not comfortable watching other people's kids slowly kill themselves for my own entertainment.

I don't judge other people for enjoying it, since I do know that this is a choice that the players make, but I just can't get behind it. Especially not with so much that turns my stomach.

The Ray Rice thing is endemic to the NFL only caring about the product on the field and the brand (f'ed that up this time). And the NCAA is probably worse.

FIFA and the PL aren't much better, but at least the players aren't killing themselves (or if they are it's not nearly so brutal/savage...I know too many headers at a young age has also been linked with CTE).

Luckily I was never a massive fan, so it was easy to kick the habit for me.

Good post. I can understand your view. It's a barbaric sport.

But I love it...modern day gladiators in a way. Killing themselves for our (and their) entertainment.
 

Good post. I can understand your view. It's a barbaric sport.

But I love it...modern day gladiators in a way. Killing themselves for our (and their) entertainment.

They're about as much Gladiators as these beauts.

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Rugby players would make them cry like lil bishes. Easy.
 
I can see that. Somewhat unrelated but there was that pitcher in the 70s who claims that he threw a no-hitter on LSD. I think it was Doc Ellis.

Yep. 1970 - with the Pirates:

June 12, 1970, no-hitter[edit]
Self-reportedly under the influence of LSD, Ellis pitched a no-hitter against the Padres on Friday, June 12, 1970. The Pirates flew to San Diego on Thursday, June 11 for a series against the San Diego Padres. Ellis reported that he visited a friend in Los Angeles and used LSD "two or three times." Thinking it was still Thursday, he took a hit of LSD on Friday at noon, and his friend's girlfriend reminded him at 2:00 PM that he was scheduled to pitch that night. Ellis flew from Los Angeles to San Diego at 3:00 PM and arrived at San Diego Stadium at 4:30 PM; the game started at 6:05 PM.[5]

Ellis threw a no-hitter despite being unable to feel the ball or see the batter or catcher clearly.[24] Ellis said his catcher Jerry May wore reflective tape on his fingers which helped him to see May's signals. Ellis walked eight batters and struck out six, and he was aided by excellent fielding plays from second baseman Bill Mazeroski and center fielder Matty Alou.[25]

As Ellis recounted it:

I can only remember bits and pieces of the game. I was psyched. I had a feeling of euphoria. I was zeroed in on the [catcher's] glove, but I didn't hit the glove too much. I remember hitting a couple of batters, and the bases were loaded two or three times. The ball was small sometimes, the ball was large sometimes, sometimes I saw the catcher, sometimes I didn't. Sometimes, I tried to stare the hitter down and throw while I was looking at him. I chewed my gum until it turned to powder. I started having a crazy idea in the fourth inning that Richard Nixon was the home plate umpire, and once I thought I was pitching a baseball to Jimi Hendrix, who to me was holding a guitar and swinging it over the plate. They say I had about three to four fielding chances. I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me.[26]

Ellis reported that he never used LSD during the season again, though he continued to use amphetamines.[5]

An animated short film by James Blagden about the game, "Dock Ellis and the LSD No-No", features narration in Ellis's own voice, taken from a 2008 NPR interview.[27]

Assessments of LSD claim[edit]
Bob Smizik of the Pittsburgh Press believes Ellis' version of events that day, although he did not witness the game in person. Smizik was the reporter who first broke the story. Bill Christine, also of the Pittsburgh Press, doesn't believe Ellis' claim and was at the game that day. Christine was a beat reporter who "practically lived with the team that year". Christine said that he did not notice anything unusual, and says that if Ellis had reported to the stadium only 90 minutes before his scheduled start, reporters would have been told. John Mehno, a reporter who had "extensive interactions" with Ellis over his career, was skeptical about many stories told by Ellis, including the LSD no-hitter. Mehno said that he has not found a teammate who would corroborate the story.
 
Most everyone is right on track here with the Ray Rice thing. The reaction seems to be different after people have actually seen the video. I haven't looked it up, so it hasn't affected my take. The NFL's claim that they "never saw the tape" is ludicrous on its face. Goodell is the guy who has been a chief architect of the "clean up your act" and "let's deal with concussions" PR efforts, because he sees the liability he is in for if former players get a real crippling class-action together. After Ray Rice, there are those who place Goodell in jeopardy at this point because they believe he had to see what they saw, so who knows?

The monster stalks, and harvests those who do not get in front of the truth that has been ignored far too long.

I'm too old and tired to run that fast, myself.
 

Good post. I can understand your view. It's a barbaric sport.

But I love it...modern day gladiators in a way. Killing themselves for our (and their) entertainment.
I understand the difficulty in giving up a sport, especially when it's such a behemoth financially that you know that your money personally is unimportant to them. I don't know what I'd do if I'd been a hardcore fan growing up. As it is, I was able to give it up easily.

I do hold out hope that the sport will end up going the way of boxing for the health of so many young American boys and men. Much better for them to be playing less brutal sports, that can be just as wonderful to watch.
 
Can't watch American football any longer. The concussion stuff makes me sick when I think about it...I'd be damned if I let my son play (American) football when he gets older so I'm not comfortable watching other people's kids slowly kill themselves for my own entertainment.

I don't judge other people for enjoying it, since I do know that this is a choice that the players make, but I just can't get behind it. Especially not with so much that turns my stomach.

The Ray Rice thing is endemic to the NFL only caring about the product on the field and the brand (f'ed that up this time). And the NCAA is probably worse.

FIFA and the PL aren't much better, but at least the players aren't killing themselves (or if they are it's not nearly so brutal/savage...I know too many headers at a young age has also been linked with CTE).

Luckily I was never a massive fan, so it was easy to kick the habit for me.

I'm grateful I didn't grow up in a family that was big on football. My first favorite athletes were Saints RBs Dalton Hilliard and Craig "Ironhead" Heyward. While I don't think I'll ever tell my sons they can't play football, I'm doing everything I can to give them other interests. My oldest CBA to play a contact sport, so I'm ok there. My second would wear his Coleman shirt every day if we let him, and was quite disappointed his rec soccer team didn't decide to take the name Everton. But he's got the disposition to be a great linebacker/safety, so we'll see what happens. Our little one, despite being barely a year old, already gets the "what position will he play" question because of his size. I'd be happy if he ended up like Jozy, even if his touch is no better.
 
I understand the difficulty in giving up a sport, especially when it's such a behemoth financially that you know that your money personally is unimportant to them. I don't know what I'd do if I'd been a hardcore fan growing up. As it is, I was able to give it up easily.

I do hold out hope that the sport will end up going the way of boxing for the health of so many young American boys and men. Much better for them to be playing less brutal sports, that can be just as wonderful to watch.

Yeah...I have no plans on giving it up. As with anything, it's a choice they make to play. I played growing up, and it was an incredible experience.

I for one hope it does not fade away as boxing has. I just hope they clean up all of the off the field shizz that's plaguing the league.
 
Yeah, yeah...fixed that. Bigger, stronger, and faster than your rugby fellas. Not sayin they ain't tough like, but they would get mawled on the gridiron.

Again I have to point it out to Americans, bigger, faster and stronger does not mean tougher. The bells are wearing padding and helmets, they would scream like little girls in the opening ten minutes of rugby guaranteed.

It also highlights why the best NFL players could not beat an average Rugby League team. You breed them as big and fast and strong for a game which is glorified British Bulldog without any skill.

Rugby Union requires not only fitness and toughness and speed, but also intelligence in the game. And endurance to wrap it all up.

It's twice the game played by guys who have to be three times as tough.

No backchat.
 

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