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Safari 4 is my browser of choice, as it's pretty cutting edge in terms of features, but still in beta.

This site doesn't work so well with it, and many of the buttons for some reason don't work. Which may well be down to the forum software.

Just given you a heads up for when all the other browsers catch up.
 
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I don't do sh*t at work and for some reason I get paid a crap-ton of money and am considered a professional.

Weird how all that works eh?
 
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GhostOfDixie said:
Why do you have a beef with Web Designers? Slashing your tyres mate?
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*opens can of worms*

Because 99% of people who claim to be professional web designers aren't.

They're just nerds like me, who can make a website. As can the majority of 13/14/15 year olds who need to produce a website to obtain a ICT GCSE.

Unless you can live off web design alone (as one or two who will be reading this can), then its not a profession. Its a hobby. A hobby you can get paid for. Tell me, you mentioned you earn £30,000 a year. You also said you have done over 100 websites in the past 5 years. Now, you never earned £150,000 in five years from doing 100 websites.

So does your profession pay all your bills?

If it does then fair enough, I'm wrong. You in that minority who are professional at what they do.

But if you work in another job (like at a restaurant) to cover those bills and pay for season tickets etc.

So its a hobby you attempt to get paid for, not a profession.

Using your example from earlier of photography. I could go and buy a disposable camera, take pictures and attempt to sell them. I couldn't make a living out of it because I am not a professional. Professional photographers however, can make a living out of it.

Anyway, thats my opinion? Dont like it? Ah well.
 
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GrandOldTeam said:
*opens can of worms*

Because 99% of people who claim to be professional web designers aren't.

They're just nerds like me, who can make a website. As can the majority of 13/14/15 year olds who need to produce a website to obtain a ICT GCSE.

Unless you can live off web design alone (as one or two who will be reading this can), then its not a profession. Its a hobby. A hobby you can get paid for. Tell me, you mentioned you earn £30,000 a year. You also said you have done over 100 websites in the past 5 years. Now, you never earned £150,000 in five years from doing 100 websites.

So does your profession pay all your bills?

If it does then fair enough, I'm wrong. You in that minority who are professional at what they do.

But if you work in another job (like at a restaurant) to cover those bills and pay for season tickets etc.

So its a hobby you attempt to get paid for, not a profession.

Using your example from earlier of photography. I could go and buy a disposable camera, take pictures and attempt to sell them. I couldn't make a living out of it because I am not a professional. Professional photographers however, can make a living out of it.

Anyway, thats my opinion? Dont like it? Ah well.
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It's fair enough - but this is my situation.

I never earned £150,000 in 5 years because some of them sites were part of a job I did for a client where I got paid £300.00 per design, and that equated for nearly 50. I do make a living out of what I do, it pays for much of my life. The restaurant pays my debts - I'm in an IVA due to my cavalier student life and taking credit from everyone who gives it to me. Plus it gets me out of the house and meeting people - working on your own in an office is quite lonely. Also I earn tips which pay for holidays etc...

So it's not a hobby that I attempt to get paid for. My clients would never take on a hobbyist. I'm also members of local networking and business groups, who also would not take on a hobbyist.
 
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GhostOfDixie said:
But let's take someone else as an example. ///// does book keeping right? He also drives a taxi. Which one of those is his profession? Which one of those is his hobby?
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Dont think its wise to disclose person info of other members Ghost :) (Maybe edit that out?)

If a member earns his living from one job, and is currently studying book keeping - then I would say their profession is the job that earns them a living.

In fact, that member himself told me in his house that he does book keeping as a bit of a hobby because he is into that kind of thing - (he done it for free for a community centre thing)
 
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