2023/24 Sean Dyche

[Blast_of_Cannock]

We have the same players and manager so why are we not climbing out of the bottom to make up for the lost points ?

Probably due to us having one of the smallest squads in the Prem, and due to the lack of quality back-up players, we can't rotate & freshen-up the first team. With the games coming in such a short space most of the team are knackered, leading to a downturn in form. Or something.

 

[JimmyK]

I find it very strange how some people made their mind up about him before he came and will just never change their tune. He's doing a good job at the moment I think 99% of fans of any club would see it that way and it's strange that we have people constantly whining about him. He's never going to be a Guardiola but we don't need him to be at the moment.

 

[DualityNSNO]

I find it very strange how some people made their mind up about him before he came and will just never change their tune. He's doing a good job at the moment I think 99% of fans of any club would see it that way and it's strange that we have people constantly whining about him. He's never going to be a Guardiola but we don't need him to be at the moment.

We don't need him to be Guardiola but we need him to be competent and not let us drop points against crap teams due to selections and mismanagement, as we now literally can't afford to do that.

 

[JimmyK]

We don't need him to be Guardiola but we need him to be competent and not let us drop points against crap teams due to selections and mismanagement, as we now literally can't afford to do that.

Realistically we are going to drop points to crap teams though thats just how it goes when you're a crap team yourself. He's doing a more than passable job at the moment like I said if you asked football fans and pundits about the job he's doing 99% would say he's doing well the only people who wouldn't agree are the people who decided he asn't good enough before he even came here and have just bleated about it ever since.

 

[GoldenToffee]

You have to be f joking if we are even contemplating signing Lingard. Kin finished with Everton if this is what we've turned into.

 

[Lobworm]

Another run like the first 9 (2W, 1D, 6L) games of the season and we're filling our collective pants with excrement very quickly though, and that will be his doing for a large part.

Re the idea/options - he has a plan A for a game and doesn't change it for 80-odd minutes even if it doesn't work AT ALL, "he has no clue" is almost too accurate. Like last game out, he had options, he picked 3ATB for no reason and we created literally nothing all game - why? Stick to 4-5-1 that won us 4 out of 6 or however many, why would you change it? Oh yeah, Doucoure was out so no one else can play behind the striker in the league, obviously, so we must experiment. Like we did last season for 3 very winnable games, mind, so it's a repeating event that leads to pant-shitting.

I agree to a large extent. There are times I think he could/should have changed things. Why hasn't he? I don't know. My guess is that because he thinks his one system will be enough to keep us up over a season, period. Which in terms of accumulating points, it has been (so far). His experiments have largely been rubbish, at the weekend, especially.

 

[twoblue]

Feels like there’s 3 different types of criticism going on in here.

There’s the fair & reasonable sort. Questioning choice of formations, timing of subs, choice of starters. Criticism grounded in reality whether you like Dyche or not.

Then there’s the hypothetical sort saying he won’t be good enough to take us into European contention in some monied future. Not sure there’s much evidence of that but fair enough.

Then there’s the group that asks why doesn’t he take our very limited resources & play a completely different way to what suits our squad.

Seems a bit counter intuitive to me but maybe I’m missing how using our players to their strengths is a bad thing.

Nail on head.
Arrived a a club destined for relagation. Just sold a 60m player and got no money to spend in a window.
Signed 2 back up strikers and aged utility player, seen ten points deducted.
Still we are out of the relagation zone, at a club in crisis, that no upwardly mobile manager would go near because:
A. They have would have just sacked a manager out performing the set of players they have.
B. There is no money to improve the players or stamp any authority on the squad or change us to some possession based Tiki taka side.
It would be ridiculous to even think about sacking Dyche now. He is not perfect but we have had some solid performances throughout the season. Any change now is likely to result in a decline in performances than an improvement and could see us go down.

The cries to make a change, while stating that they aren’t paid the money to name a better manager are ridiculous. Maybe the ones that are paid the money agree that Dyche is the right man for the club at the time.

 

[DualityNSNO]

You have to be f joking if we are even contemplating signing Lingard. Kin finished with Everton if this is what we've turned into.

Yeah cuz last year was inspired by the Ashley Young signing lol

We've not turned into this just now, we have been this for years.

 

[twoblue]

We don't need him to be Guardiola but we need him to be competent and not let us drop points against crap teams due to selections and mismanagement, as we now literally can't afford to do that.

Wolves aren’t crap…

 

[Lobworm]

You have to be f joking if we are even contemplating signing Lingard. Kin finished with Everton if this is what we've turned into.

Hate to remind you of this...

 

[Sharpattack]

You have to be f joking if we are even contemplating signing Lingard. Kin finished with Everton if this is what we've turned into.

Just saw that Danny DeBeek has been loaned by Man U to Eintracht. I'd totally for gotten that waster was with us last year! lol We do really roll the dice with some of these wasters. Still cheaper, and contributed more than a certain Dele Alli.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Has had 11 months in the job, and one window to try to get the side what he wants.
Squad is threadbare, and he's had the P&S investigation and resultant punishment hanging over him.
We have improved, because we're more solid, but he doesn't have the players available to be making massive changes in games. A patchwork squad thrown together by such luminaries as lampard, benitez, koeman and allardyce. A shambles, a mess, and a hideous waste.
Now the messiah owner wants to jump ship, the new ground still isn't delivered, and it seems the club is haemorrhaging money somehow.

And I thought the end of the agent johnson era was bad.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Just saw that Danny DeBeek has been loaned by Man U to Eintracht. I'd totally for gotten that waster was with us last year! lol We do really roll the dice with some of these wasters. Still cheaper, and contributed more than a certain Dele Alli.

Assist for Cal-Lewins winner vs palace.

 

[Neiler]

Hes earned 26 points in the first half of the season, hes been brilliant.

 

[blueboy72]

You said no top clubs wanted him, I said we are, historically speaking, a top club. I don't think we were in a position to go back for Carlo Ancelotti, or anyone else at the top of the pile, so the board went for someone to keep us up and steady the ship, he's done that and more.

We did climb out of the bottom, with ease! The points he accumulated suggest that we wouldn't/shouldn't be in a relegation fight at this point in the season. You're not going to use financial error from a previous season as a stick to beat Dyche with are you?

I am not sure he doesn't have an idea, I think what he definitely doesn't have is very many options. We have a decent first 11, that's pretty much it. If we go a goal down he's bringing on players of similar/lower quality than what's on the pitch.

I agree with all of that, yes squad size and quality limitations will catch up with us, but the -10 isn't his doing. That's not down to his management. He's pretty much kept his side of the bargain in that we've accumulated enough points to be comfortably safe.

sorry but that’s an excuse. He hasn’t the squad or only similar players on the bench. We have a front 3 he picks every game who’ve got 7 goals in 20 games. There’s a lot he can change or do something different, loads of managers make changes at half time when things aren’t going to plan, not dyche he seems to think something that hasn’t worked for 45 minutes, will start working in the 46th. He must be the easiest manager to play against when you’re a goal up.