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2023/24 Sean Dyche

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Gilbert.. said:
I try and enjoy every win now as sadly its rare for Everton. I posted on here before a ball was kicked this season i was glad Dyche was here as the club are an absolute mess and he's at least a steady eddie. 1 point from 15 isnt and wasnt acceptable in anyones book. Dont care who you are you cant not question 1 point from 15. The pressure is off with the Brentford win. But will be back if we dont get minimum a win and draw at home to luton and Bournemouth. He has a squad available now to string a few results together. Resuts against teams who are our rivals in the bottom half of the table. I dont have great expectations with Dyche and we've already pissed away 6 or 7 points this season. The next two games at home are Dyche levels.
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Make that 10 now
 
blueboy72 said:
Potter got Brighton 9th with maupay playing over 30 prem games. Remember him, apparently he’s not a proper striker
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True but the season prior he got Brighton 16th in which his situation was the exact same as Dyche is currently - high xG but not getting the results.

Brighton kept faith in the manager then the following season got 9th. Whats to say keeping faith in Dyche wont yield a similar scenario next season ?
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
True but the season prior he got Brighton 16th in which his situation was the exact same as Dyche is currently - high xG but not getting the results.

Brighton kept faith in the manager then the following season got 9th. Whats to say keeping faith in Dyche wont yield a similar scenario next season ?
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We'll be in the Championship next season so 9th is a real possibility
 

bluelife said:
Can safely say, whilst some performances have been decent and therefore an ‘xG win’, I haven’t come away from a game this season thinking we were unlucky.

Unlucky is when you’re peppering the goal whilst the ball somehow stays out through goalkeeper heroics/bad refereeing etc., whilst looking solid defensively and only conceding to freak goals. If that’s the case, you can use the xG excuse with SOME credibility. Frankly I feel like the points we are on is exactly what is deserved, through toothless striking, and haphazard/disorganised defending.

If the opposition has an xG of 0.5, but we continuously concede 2, it’s not because of luck, it’s because half chances for them are ending up in the back of the net because we’re crap at defending.
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Quality over quantity
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
True but the season prior he got Brighton 16th in which his situation was the exact same as Dyche is currently - high xG but not getting the results.

Brighton kept faith in the manager then the following season got 9th. Whats to say keeping faith in Dyche wont yield a similar scenario next season ?
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Just to point out that the season they finished 16th, they scored 39. The season they finished 9th, they scored 42. They didn’t even get much better defensively, as they went from conceding 46 to 44.

The xG still didn’t convert. It’s a pointless stat.
 
chippy1722 said:
Not a chance he’s gone before Christmas.
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Probably not , but lose against Bournemouth and get battered against the RS , his position will become untenable.
It will be a long way back from there.
I expect we will win against Bournemouth, he surely will be less defensive than against Luton?
His job may depend on it .
 
Furey1878 said:
It's a helpful metric that alone is meaningless. You need to take the context of the game into account.

Everton's xG was good, but it largely came in the first half and a lot of that was the fact that our goal consisted of 3 high xG chances before it finally went in.

So it you look at in full context it tells you we made chances in the first half and were crap in the 2nd.

Would you disagree with that because it sounds like the game I watched live.
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I disagree with XG full stop but I get the premise of it but xg and Actual Goals are very very different, the table tells me the story i need, nothing else.
 

ForeverBlue92 said:
True but the season prior he got Brighton 16th in which his situation was the exact same as Dyche is currently - high xG but not getting the results.

Brighton kept faith in the manager then the following season got 9th. Whats to say keeping faith in Dyche wont yield a similar scenario next season ?
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Do you really believe that. Houghton’s football at Brighton was horrendous,
Potter improved it straight away,
They were seen as a relegation team, he got them from 17th to 15th,
Then they finished 16th like you said.
Dyche things he isn’t doing anything wrong,
He’s blaming the players,
Bringing up XG. Dyche will never get top half as an Everton manager.

Potter had a lot worse players at Brighton,
But he had a plan to improve and
Move forward. Dyche’s football ain’t doing that
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
True but the season prior he got Brighton 16th in which his situation was the exact same as Dyche is currently - high xG but not getting the results.

Brighton kept faith in the manager then the following season got 9th. Whats to say keeping faith in Dyche wont yield a similar scenario next season ?
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Also let’s see what the XG is in another 6/7 games. As we’ve had a very favourable start in terms of opposition
 
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Off the clubs website with no context... Almost as if they want us to think everything is hunky doory.
 

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