2023/24 Sean Dyche

[Osamabindiesel]

Anybody that says we aren't better under Dyche is living under a cloud.....

I've seen possession being bandied about as if it's the be all and end all. We had more shots on target than Brighton yesterday..... That's a fact.

Would I love us to be able to hold the ball and pass it for the sake of passing, we had that towards the tailend of Martinez and if memory serves me right it was horrific.....

Everton are always best when we are in your face, full bloodied tackles, crosses into the box and horrible to play against.

The possession means next to nothing. We play purposeful footy under Dyche and he takes a lot of risks. If anything we tend to lack the ball because we are actually being productive with it and trying to create chances. We aren’t playing tiki take crap and wasting 30 minutes doing f all on the edge of the box.

 

[Walken]

You know, the timescale topic is moot since he has had more time than the likes of Poch and Big Ange do... This is Everton, we can't keep blaming the last two years.

I don't see how you can assess any situation correctly and claim all factors are 'moot'. He's not even a year in. Poch also needs time starting from a better place than Dyche and we will see how long the aussies luck holds, they've been very lucky in more than a few games

 

[Calvin]

Is this the same Branthwaite who came forward, made an interception and was thus pivotal in DCL's winner against West Ham?

indeed, but are you telling me that you don’t see the difference between the amount of time the Brighton centre half’s are in possession and influencing / dictating the flow of the game, compared to Everton’s centre half’s?

 

[kenada_blue]

Get the ball forward as a possession philopsophy, sounds similar to me. I see Onana and Garner collecting the ball and moving it forward regulary this season.

Football can be simple and effective. But people nowadays prefer it to be over complicated.

The end game is always the same. Score more than them.

 

[kenada_blue]

indeed, but are you telling me that you don’t see the difference between the amount of time the Brighton centre half’s are in possession and influencing / dictating the flow of the game, compared to Everton’s centre half’s?

Brighton set traps beginning from the defence. They want you to press them higher.

 

[Calvin]

Football can be simple and effective. But people nowadays prefer it to be over complicated.

The end game is always the same. Score more than them.

Hard to score when you don’t have the ball, how simple is that

 

[siddharth]

I don't see how you can assess any situation correctly and claim all factors are 'moot'. He's not even a year in. Poch also needs time starting from a better place than Dyche and we will see how long the aussies luck holds, they've been very lucky in more than a few games

If the problems are not 'moot', give something material and verbalise on details. None of the other teams have had a better starting schedule than ours did, and we completely threw it out the window. Now we are trying to snatch them from better teams. We should have got Tim Cahill on our staff before the start of the season then. lol

 

[Osamabindiesel]

I’ve said it before but Dyche is a psychological manager. He wants his players to feel like they accomplished something after the game. For all of the smarmy XG crap he bands about, he does it to motivate his players.

It’s why the players haven’t turned on Dyche and they’ve turned on almost every other guy we have had in recent memory. He has a goal in mind but allows them to do it there own way where the likes of Silva and others had a strict philosophy that you had to follow to the letter. Players have more freedom to just play.

 

[SJB]

indeed, but are you telling me that you don’t see the difference between the amount of time the Brighton centre half’s are in possession and influencing / dictating the flow of the game, compared to Everton’s centre half’s?

I didn't see any Brighton players "dictate" much at all tbh, they were so lacking in creativity than they had to sub off their highly rated young out and out striker and bring on one with a bit more skill and movement who might make his own luck.

 

[Walken]

If the problems are not 'moot', give something material and verbalise on details. None of the other teams have had a better starting schedule than ours did, and we completely threw it out the window. Now we are trying to snatch them from better teams. We should have got Tim Cahill on our staff before the start of the season then. lol

We started from a position of two last day relegation fights, we have to sell to buy or wait until late in the window when teams will accept structured payments, we have an unbalanced squad with bloated contracts that are nightmare to move on from previous regimes, we have just sacked the entire board and had a failed takeover thanks to bills cronies and now another lingering takover starts. We've been a bottom 5 club for two seasons, poch and the aussie don't start from that position, we have less money to spend than them and the new management is not yet a season old.

We have shown an upward curve under this management in pretty much any format you want to talk about. Do you reallt think any performance below the level of the team currently top is inacceptable and that ithas to happen instantly, as in your words, timescales are moot.

 

[Calvin]

I didn't see any Brighton players "dictate" much at all tbh, they were so lacking in creativity than they had to sub off their highly rated young out and out striker and bring on one with a bit more skill and movement who might make his own luck.

They had 80 % possession and were camped in our half most of the game, I’d say that’s dictating

 

[SJB]

They had 80 % possession and were camped in our half most of the game, I’d say that’s dictating

Pickford had very little to do, unless they create chances and score goals then possession as a stat is nothing more than vanity.

 

[MisterJ]

Hard to score when you don’t have the ball, how simple is that

It's not how long you have the ball, it's what you do with it when you do

 

[Calvin]

Pickford had very little to do, unless they create chances and score goals then possession as a stat is nothing more than vanity.

Ok I’m out of here, feel like I’m repeating myself

 

[Osamabindiesel]

Pickford had very little to do, unless they create chances and score goals then possession as a stat is nothing more than vanity.

The only caveat I will add against this is the players obviously had tired after a while and Brighton did start to threaten more, but for the most part Pickford was pretty carefree. Players probably should have been subbed but hindsight and all that. We were very solid and then the deflection happened