ForeverEverton
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Agree with Ped here, Dyche in game management is woeful at best...
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Let's accept, firstly, that last season's start was unacceptable. It's no barometer of respectability or reassurance.
I am with you on the "Hopefully" bit. But Dyche is here to ensure safety - not "hopefully" attain it. There is no other reason to employ him other than because he ensures safety. A few more defeats and that hope will recede. Then, keeping him will no longer be seen as the "stability" option.
The problems at this club lie in the empty boardroom. But I won't bat for Dyche anymore. He has underperformed so far this season. He has few cards to play - but he has played them abysmally. And he keeps playing his jokers Keane and Young.
He'll be gone by the takeover at the latest. Knowing our luck, that'll be 2027 then.
Nobody wants us to be relegated Crustypher. Stop being sensationalistNo surprise that those wanting us to be relegated under Dyche are the same sellouts that wanted us relegated under the Fat Kopite
Such a shame that they can walk amongst us
Your ambition is not even on the floor mate, is I bet the floor, you sound like a young football fan, who doesn’t support Everton and see’s us along side the like of palace, Brentford and Bournemouth etc. and think that we fight relegation every year, where’s your standards for Everton football club?
Thankfully there’s still some Everton fans around who expect better. I kept reading from the dyche apologists last season that it was a championship squad, well we finished 13th, this in not one of worst 3 squads, that’s a ridiculous thing to say. And how many games do you think we should win in 27? Wining 5 is a sackable offence. He’d have got sacked at every other club
I take note of ALL data. For that reason I see Dyche as the one who keeps us free from relegation given his record so far. I also remember the turmoil we were in before he arrived with a revolving managerial door that brought instability.
In short, I'm in favour of:
1/ not getting relegated
2/ stability.
When you and others are still pissing your kecks about us not losing yesterday, frustrating your plans of installing a new manager (pie in the 'kin sky btw, because he won't be getting sacked and paid up anytime soon with 9 months left on his contract), I see that as a positive sign that we're getting more focused and picking up the points we should have secured thus far this season. (We made a similar bad start last season and ended up winning 48 points.)
The more you and your fellow manager haters are whining the better it'll be for the rest of us, because it'll mean were picking up points.
I hope you're taking note @davek ... "the Kenwright effect"
4 defeats and 1 draw is totally unacceptable and inexcusable
My standards haven't dropped @davek
I'm as much annoyed by Dyche's stupid "last season" comments and Thelwell going on about Dele Alli
Shambolic stuff from both of them
Both need to pull their fingers out @davek![]()
The first five games are enough to conclude that he has massively underperformed so far this season and he is incapable of growing in the job into something more that a desperate firefighter. The first five games have made it more likely that we will be relegated - not less.He’s kept us up the two seasons he’s been here under much more difficult circumstances but 5 games is enough to conclude he won’t this season.
No bottom half team can ensure safety. If they could they’d be a top half team, by definition most of them will go through bad form at some point which has fans questioning will they go down. The season is 38 games long for a reason though. Do I think we’re one of the three worst teams from what I’ve seen even in the games we’ve lost? No.
No surprise that those wanting us to be relegated under Dyche are the same sellouts that wanted us relegated under the Fat Kopite
Such a shame that they can walk amongst us
And it is the job of the manager to galvanise those diverse personalities into a team and to find a playing style which best suits them, Sean Dyche is doing neither of these things. Furthermore Sean Dyche has be in charge when many of those players have come in, your post concisely explains why he isn’t very good at managing a football team.It's not about ambition, it's looking at what we have compared with what everyone else has and I see one of the three worst squads in the league. You disagree, which is fine and what this place is all about. What has "Everton Football Club" got to do with winning Football matches? It means nothing (and, evidently, hasn't meant anything to those in charge for some time).
It's 11 mediocre Footballers from all 4 corners of the globe, with no real affiliation to the club or the fans, wearing blue shirts for 90 minutes. That's what I see currently. At full time, I don't see any of them broken in the way many blues are. Their weekends are seldom ruined. It never used to be like that.
He remembers Everton in the 80s mate. He is out his back garden shouting NSNO into the windRemember when you tried to make a thread to list the Benitez 8 but tagged all the wrong people because you couldn’t even list 8 names correctly. Good times.
I know you’re still sore that Dyche made you look wrong on the internet after you gleefully told anyone who would listen we were going down in 22/23 and that you’d predicted it as far back as August.
To go two for two you then spent all last season saying how Luton were a much better team than us and getting giddy every time they won.
There’s only one person on this forum that seems to find happiness in Everton being relegated.
When we’re in a new stadium under new ownership in the PL with a new manager taking over a better squad you can thank Dyche for having more conviction and resolution than you do.
It's not about ambition, it's looking at what we have compared with what everyone else has and I see one of the three worst squads in the league. You disagree, which is fine and what this place is all about. What has "Everton Football Club" got to do with winning Football matches? It means nothing (and, evidently, hasn't meant anything to those in charge for some time).
It's 11 mediocre Footballers from all 4 corners of the globe, with no real affiliation to the club or the fans, wearing blue shirts for 90 minutes. That's what I see currently. At full time, I don't see any of them broken in the way many blues are. Their weekends are seldom ruined. It never used to be like that.
And it is the job of the manager to galvanise those diverse personalities into a team and to find a playing style which best suits them, Sean Dyche is doing neither of these things. Furthermore Sean Dyche has be in charge when many of those players have come in, your post concisely explains why he isn’t very good at managing a football team.
The big worry I have is that we can look pretty good and have a 2-0 lead, have a game in the bag for 85 minutes and then fall apart and lose a game 3-2 in injury time. We looked comfortable at Villa too but let Villa get back level through our own bad play, and then slacked off to allow them to get a winner. Before those two games we conceded 7 goals without scoring ourselves. So from those first 5 games we conceded on average just under 3 per game, for the first two looked like we would never score, the next two threw away two goal leads, one in the space of ten minutes, and yesterday got our first point of the season against a team that has not won this season yet. Not sure what 3 teams look worse than us at the moment, and to be honest I can`t see which teams I`d be confident of us beating at this point of the season.He’s kept us up the two seasons he’s been here under much more difficult circumstances but 5 games is enough to conclude he won’t this season?
No bottom half team can ensure safety. If they could they’d be a top half team, by definition most of them will go through bad form at some point which has fans questioning will they go down. The season is 38 games long for a reason though. Do I think we’re one of the three worst teams from what I’ve seen even in the games we’ve lost? No.