Steve Hitchen

[Stephenlloyd]

End of the day. I don’t think he will be picking the players full stop . I’m sure moving forward Frank and the board will all be involved and of course the owner. And hopefully Cahill next season.

As long as we all work together. Then hopefully it will work out, unfortunately, plenty of crooks in football. I’m praying Moshiri listens to Frank, he’s obviously not a scout, but he will have an idea of the type of players he needs and wants, to fit his style and system. Do you think Ali was even on the table before the club approached Frank

 

[Ghost Rider]

We have seen ZERO indication that Moshiri blocked any signing suggested by any manager or any DoF.

But we do have indication that players were bought away from the director of football. Which makes the director of football obselete , because what is the point then?

Brands indentified quality players at his old job. So the question is , why did we end up with so many bad signings in the end? That's your problem here.

So ideally you want someone to come in with a massive track record of results rather than Highlights, so if they can do their job, at the very least we have competent squad players if not world class.

 

[Goat]

But we do have indication that players were bought away from the director of football. Which makes the director of football obselete , because what is the point then?

Brands indentified quality players at his old job. So the question is , why did we end up with so many bad signings in the end? That's your problem here.

So ideally you want someone to come in with a massive track record of results rather than Highlights, so if they can do their job, at the very least we have competent squad players if not world class.

Marcel Brands pre-Everton record was stellar.

Brands was never the problem, the problem was he wasnt allowed to do his job, which should have been in sole charge of transfers.

Thats an issue we would indeed have going forward.

But your point was that Hitchens was stopped from signing players, as far as we know Brands was never denied a signing.

 

[kev]

Another one with links to that slug Joorabchian.

You're not the only one to mention this, but Just what exactly are his links to Joorabchian? Genuine question BTW as I have no idea.
Joorabchian seems to have some at least tenuous links to just about anybody involved in football today.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Marcel Brands pre-Everton record was stellar.

Brands was never the problem, the problem was he wasnt allowed to do his job, which should have been in sole charge of transfers.

Thats an issue we would indeed have going forward.

But your point was that Hitchens was stopped from signing players, as far as we know Brands was never denied a signing.

My point is simply running a list of what players he could have signed is here nor there , because brands had the same, or actual results in many cases.

Unless you fix the problem then nothing changes.

 

[catcherintherye]

Another one with links to that slug Joorabchian.

Suspicious.

Marcel Brands pre-Everton record was stellar.

Brands was never the problem, the problem was he wasnt allowed to do his job, which should have been in sole charge of transfers.

Thats an issue we would indeed have going forward.

But your point was that Hitchens was stopped from signing players, as far as we know Brands was never denied a signing.

But he did have signings done for him behind his back.

 

[Yarrgh]

I thought Tim was being groomed for the post.

I'd have him in right at the top table where Bill is.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

Looks like he’ll be coming in, so I’d assume Lampard has given his seal of approval. He’ll veto anyone he doesn’t want anyway, that’s for sure. As long as Moshiri backs right out and let’s this fella actually do his job as he should’ve done with Brands, I suspect he’ll do a good job. No more Iwobi’s, trying to buy El Ghazis, or in general listening to that utter rat Joorabchian and we’ll be sound.

 

[Petit]

Moshiri will pay the money, problem is our DoFs/Managers bought crap.

If this fella identifies quality players then I dont think Moshiri will start doing a Levy and wanting to get them for buttons

Does Moshiri have any money left? Last five years at Everton must have put a significant dent in his assets.

 

[Street end man]

Does Moshiri have any money left? Last five years at Everton must have put a significant dent in his assets.

Moshri will always have money. Moshri is smart, Moshri shops at Homebargainslol

 

[Dddddd]

They all claim that though don’t they?

Didn’t Steve Walsh claim he had Haaland, Robertson and a few others sorted?

 

[ClausThomsen]

See i would have thought that was the case anyway.
100% the role has to be clear now. I personally would hate to do a job as a manager and have players plonked on you by a dof.
I dont think moyes would touch one with a barge pole. And i like that. And i liked the way he bought players. Have it as a fancy name for a scout if you want. But i like managers who fully have their signings on the pitch.

And look how their recruitment has gone this past window.

Unfortunately there is a lot more to a managers role now than there was in the past. In his heyday I doubt Ferguson was doing 2-3 hours mandatory postmatch interviews for domestic and International media. Add in the vast number of commercial partnerships who all want their photoshoots and promos, much larger staff numbers to co-ordinate and the fact that signing a player now is a lot more involved given the finances, number of intermediaries and the web being a lot more tangled in the modern game. The dynamic has changed.

I also think there are very few competent DOF arrangements where players are dumped on managers. A lot of managers would rather the recruitment network is ran by someone else with regular consultation on the sorts of player required and then more specifics on individuals as players are identified.

 

[bluestevon]

Marcel Brands pre-Everton record was stellar.

Brands was never the problem, the problem was he wasnt allowed to do his job, which should have been in sole charge of transfers.

Thats an issue we would indeed have going forward.

But your point was that Hitchens was stopped from signing players, as far as we know Brands was never denied a signing.

Brands problem was simply managers in charge who where at direct odds with his own ideas - it only works if the DoF and manager are on the same page, or at least in the sane book.

Then an owner who buys players for a manager and a DoF who have different ideas

 

[ClausThomsen]

Marcel Brands pre-Everton record was stellar.

Brands was never the problem, the problem was he wasnt allowed to do his job, which should have been in sole charge of transfers.

Thats an issue we would indeed have going forward.

But your point was that Hitchens was stopped from signing players, as far as we know Brands was never denied a signing.

I think we can strongly suspect that was the case though given the reaction to being challenged after the derby defeat.

Probably the only time he let his professional discretion drop.

 

[Gilbert..]

And look how their recruitment has gone this past window.

Unfortunately there is a lot more to a managers role now than there was in the past. In his heyday I doubt Ferguson was doing 2-3 hours mandatory postmatch interviews for domestic and International media. Add in the vast number of commercial partnerships who all want their photoshoots and promos, much larger staff numbers to co-ordinate and the fact that signing a player now is a lot more involved given the finances, number of intermediaries and the web being a lot more tangled in the modern game. The dynamic has changed.

I also think there are very few competent DOF arrangements where players are dumped on managers. A lot of managers would rather the recruitment network is ran by someone else with regular consultation on the sorts of player required and then more specifics on individuals as players are identified.

That doesnt really have anything to do with dof. He was called dithering dave even when he was at Everton. But i prefered him that way because he knew what he wanted. He didnt just buy for the sake of buying.
Its a fair shout about the job now. But it all depends on who has final say. If its not the manager then i will always find it quite bizare.