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Summer transfer window 2023

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Eggs said:
….Dyche didn’t start Keane at CB in those last few games. I don’t get the impression Dyche thinks he’s his ‘love child’.
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I’m not sure about that…it was only after being constantly questioned in the press conferences that he dropped him and having dropped him we had s little resurgence in results. It would not surprise me when the pressure is off, if he gives him another go. I hope not.
 
Dwight K Schrute said:
And on that point, all this has ballooned from me making a comment (fairly) about me wondering how certain players we are linked with would fit with Dyche's style.

I'm not saying sack him. Lord, knows we need some stability somewhere in the club at the moment. What I am highlighting is why I don't like him, don't trust him and why I feel our fans have significantly overstated his worth and ability.

I am happy to be proven wrong, but we need to be careful that we don't do more long term damage with what he wants to do as manager.
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Yep. Very much with you. If this is the slightest glimmer of the dawn of a new age then that's fantastic. But all the evidence so far makes me doubt it. It's not just Dyche, of course. It's everything around the club.
 
Bez2k2k said:
Hilarious some people are never happy. We would have went down under Frank. Dyche came in and worked with the squad he had. Dom was out injured all the time, not Sean’s fault. Mina is another one. We all loved Mina but what’s the point in playing someone who always comes off injured and then is out for months. I get Keane isn’t the best but I think he played well under Dyche and he scored a belter against Spurs and set up a goal against Wolves.

As for Patterson. From what I’ve seen of him so far I think he could be good but so far he hasn’t impressed me at all. He keeps getting caught out of position and giving the ball away. So I don’t know what you’re expectation is there.

Dyche is perfect for us. We want to create a team that is hard to beat, full of horrible players like Tarky, Pickford, Onana, and then go from there. Dyche’s job was to keep us in the league last season, job done.
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I didn’t. I never understand this….we did the same with Ferguson who barely played due to injuries, and when he did play, his goal return was not great and his disciplinary record was poor. We seem to love a chest pumping, badge kissing, aggro or wind up merchant as much as players who perform for us week in and week out. I recognise Mina was effective when he did play, but I certainly didn’t love him because he didn’t play anywhere near enough and he was a waste of a salary….part of the problem that has got us into this current mess we find ourselves in.
 

Zatara said:
If PSV and Ajax (not to mention champions Feyenoord???) were mid table level then clrearly theyre better than us. Branthwaite should walk into our team.



Well, im not as you just stated their 2nd/3rd placed sides would be mid table. So theyre better than us.



But loads of posters here said he was poor in the league below lol



Hopefully they got Scott and Adam mixed up today and the younger brother rumour is true....and its Maupay off there.



We'd be lucky to finish 4th.
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Do you know what mid table at best means. If them 3 teams were in the prem I’d expect a Couple of them to struggle and it wouldn’t be a major surprise if we finished about one of two of them.

There’s also the confidence factor , that teams have from constantly winning in a poor league. And carrying it in to European games against better teams.

That wound soon drain getting beat every other week.
 
is early to say if dyche will be good or not , yes he did do a good job last season and we had some luck to, the squad he had to work with should have went down. To judge him on any style of play saying was defensive what did he have to work with to make that team play attacking football. Even next season will be too soon to tell what he is trying to do here, i do expect to see improvement with this team but again will be a tough season. For me i would give him a chance in does nothing for us again getting rid of a manager who has kept us up we need the club to get safe again. Also agree on the sort of players coming to the club we need a mix
 
Bluewolf said:
Personally I think managers like dyche should be no where near a club like Everton. At best he's a manager that will do nothing but tread water.

I look at villa who finished a few points ahead of us the season before. All the talk was about who'll get sacked first Gerrard or lampard. Villa weren't happy with Gerrard had a talk to top level managers, got a bite sacked Gerrard and got emery in and he had the whole world Cup to work with the squad.

We on the other hand clung to lampard like a drawing man with a broken bit of wood and only got rid of him when we were in the crap and nobody worth their salt would of touched us. Of all the managers in the world the idea that dyche is the best we can get is ludicrous.

What did dyche do? He implemented a defensive system, thats about it. It was better then lampard not having a system but that doesn't prove hes actually good. We conceded 28 goal in 18 games in a defensive system.

I think he'll be gone by January with less then 20 pts on the table.
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I don’t necessarily agree but what will be interesting is what a Dyche team at Everton plays like when there is no ‘threat of relegation’ pressure. Since he come in, at the tail end of January we have been on a ‘war time’ footing, and he has been a ‘warm time’ manager. His time at Burnley from what I recall (other than the season they finished in Europe) his teams always performed poorly and managed to put some wins together at the end to avoid relegation. We will soon find out whether that’s going to be the case with us.
 
Blue peter said:
I don’t necessarily agree but what will be interesting is what a Dyche team at Everton plays like when there is no ‘threat of relegation’ pressure. Since he come in, at the tail end of January we have been on a ‘war time’ footing, and he has been a ‘warm time’ manager. His time at Burnley from what I recall (other than the season they finished in Europe) his teams always performed poorly and managed to put some wins together at the end to avoid relegation. We will soon find out whether that’s going to be the case with us.
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That's reasonable, I think. Very little hope based on the past but we have to hope it will be different this time
 
Thomasc said:
I’m sorry but that’s absolute nonsense.

Another one who wants him to fail so he can gloat that he was right.
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I don't know where you get this from. I absolutely don't want him to fail. If he was amazing and got us back to where we want to be, why on earth would I care that I got it wrong?

It's a reductive way of responding to fans who don't like the manager. There Will be very few fans, if any, who would actively want the manager of our club to fail.

Absolutely mad thing to say. And Dyche is a backward thinking manager.
 

Dwight K Schrute said:
I don't know where you get this from. I absolutely don't want him to fail. If he was amazing and got us back to where we want to be, why on earth would I care that I got it wrong?

It's a reductive way of responding to fans who don't like the manager. There Will be very few fans, if any, who would actively want the manager of our club to fail.

Absolutely mad thing to say. And Dyche is a backward thinking manager.
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Maybe only time will, just hope with more attackers in this season we will see what dyche has
 
Thomasc said:
I suggest you step out of the 80’s and move into the real world.

As for Dyche, he will hopefully prove you very wrong.

Edit: he had to play the players he inherited. So your 28 goal stat is down to the fact that he inherited a bad team, had numerous injuries to both the RB and LB positions and had to reshuffle a lot too. You just come across as though you want him to fail so you can say “I told you so”.
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Take it you didn't read my post? Seeing as I'm complaining about a team that were right next to us the season before last taking decisive actions with regards to their failing manager and bringing in one of the best managers in europe while we sit and wait till January before we sack a manager clearly in over his head since October. Now that team is in europe and looking forwards and up the table where we have stood still and if you stand still in this league you're going backwards.

So please, tell me where I'm stuck in the 80s in my post?

28 goals conceded was down to the fact he'd rather play holgate at rb then Patterson and he'd rather play keane then mina. He also insisted on pushing onana further up the field instead of allowing him to play his more natural position which is a 6. He also insisted on playing Maupay when he had simms. He also went insane when Doucoure got sent off and instead of sticking to his system tore it all up and cost us there.

His in game management is possibly the worst I've ever seen. He consistently brought on the wrong subs at the wrong time if he even bothered to make subs at all. Talk about injuries, we were playing a game every 3 days and he'd the same 11 with a defensive system that meant you don't have the ball which means you are constantly having to cover ground to block gaps. No wonder we got injuries.

I want him to do well because he's the everton manager obviously. I just don't think he will because he's given me nothing to believe he will.

To just be completely dismissive of a persons opinion by just ignoring what they've put and saying "you just want them to fail so you can say I told you so" is insulting.
 

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