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The Ashes 2023

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davek said:
I take no interest in cricket tbh, but watching the replays of that it was obvious given the rules of the game that the ball was not dead and Bairstow marched down the wicket like a clown.

He should be held up for ridicule.

I guarantee if an England footballer had dropped an equivalent bollock he'd have been pilloried not lauded. There's a clear class bias going on here.
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Seems an appropriate response
 
Walken said:
Seems an appropriate response
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I know I've made the point twice already but it bears repeating: if that was football and an England player had made a giant bollocks of it and it led to defeat, the red tops and social media headline makers would be writing: "DIMWITTED GINGER PORKER LET'S DOWN THE NATION!!!", and his life would be hell until the next 'traitor' replaced him.

Because he's an ex-public schoolboy and he plays 'the gentleman's game' - where clueless biffs get out of jail by recourse to the opposition failing to observe etiquette - he's touted as a victim.

The class dimension here just cant be ignored.
 
davek said:
I know I've made the point twice already but it bears repeating: if that was football and an England player had made a giant bollocks of it and it led to defeat, the red tops and social media headline makers would be writing: "DIMWITTED GINGER PORKER LET'S DOWN THE NATION!!!", and his life would be hell until the next 'traitor' replaced him.

Because he's an ex-public schoolboy and he plays 'the gentleman's game' - where clueless biffs get out of jail by recourse to the opposition failing to observe etiquette - he's touted as a victim.

The class dimension here just cant be ignored.
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Abusing and body shaming a trusted and proven team mate to the point of ridicule may not be the greatest leadership tactic
 
davek said:
I know I've made the point twice already but it bears repeating: if that was football and an England player had made a giant bollocks of it and it led to defeat, the red tops and social media headline makers would be writing: "DIMWITTED GINGER PORKER LET'S DOWN THE NATION!!!", and his life would be hell until the next 'traitor' replaced him.

Because he's an ex-public schoolboy and he plays 'the gentleman's game' - where clueless biffs get out of jail by recourse to the opposition failing to observe etiquette - he's touted as a victim.

The class dimension here just cant be ignored.
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It shouldn't happen in either situation Dave. You wouldn't be advocating for bullets in the post.
 

Walken said:
Abusing and body shaming a trusted and proven team mate to the point of ridicule may not be the greatest leadership tactic
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I'm not saying his team mates should indulge in it, or the media for that matter.

Just telling it like it is: the error he made was appalling and unprofessional, but he's the victim.

That's how the class system works.
 

davek said:
I'm not saying his team mates should indulge in it, or the media for that matter.

Just telling it like it is: the error he made was appalling and unprofessional, but he's the victim.

That's how the class system works.
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If you follow cricket which you said you don't you'll realise the fault is with Australia, but more so the grey area of sportsmanship in the professional era, and to what level it is applied.
 

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