The Everton Board Thread

[Blue peter]

@Tom Hughes I believe you are a shareholder….I’m not looking for any detail you are not comfortable in sharing but are you aware of BK illness which is having a negative impact on his ability to competently carry out the duties of his office? (outside his apparent incompetence)

 

[Lob]

“Damo in not providing evidence shocker”

 

[Toffeepot]

Yes

All shareholders have a legal right to question board members

They don't have any right to an answer concerning private health matters though
They invested money. They have a right to ask what is happening with their investment, nothing else

 

[Damo_1878]

They don't have any right to an answer concerning private health matters though
They invested money. They have a right to ask what is happening with their investment, nothing else

Yes they do

If they fail to answer truthfully they are in breach of fiduciary duties to shareholders and can be sued under The Companies Act

 

[Blue peter]

I mean that some fans are more concerned with criticising other fans than directing their angst towards the real culprits - the people that run the club.

You have a consortium of fan groups who are prepared to unite and go out on the streets in an attempt to get something done about the situation. Then you have a load of happy clappers on internet forums who mock and deride their actions, pull apart and criticise everything they say, and call for them to stop. All of which plays into the hands of the owner and board.

It's no wonder we have such difficulty getting things done about the running of the club when anyone who does anything gets shot down like that. It would drive you to despair.

Isn’t the point of a forum to discuss things though, this extends to any activity connected with the club or should we all stay silent in how any such protests are executed?

I for one, applaud them which is why I try not to be critical because as you say, all I am doing is typing on a forum, so I think what they are doing is admirable but can we not discuss the actions taken?

I think they have done a lot of good, positive things to highlight the malaise (let’s face it there is a lot of evidence to highlight) but I also think todays Open letter was probably a little too strong in referencing someone‘s health but other than that, I agree with the overarching objective.

It just feels to me that, where BK and DBB are concerned - speak up….shout loudly from the rooftops…..when fan protests are discussed…..shut up and don’t say anything. It reminds me of the stories my dad used to tell me about Union bullies on the floor if workers didn’t agree with them after a public show of hands (until secret ballots were introduced)

We all want the same thing - the removal of this Board - I would think we are all united in that so as far as I am concerned all areas are up for debate/discussion.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Its not just the board who need to go, Moshiri needs to sell as well. We need new ownership.

 

[malfosse]

I've come to the conclusion that you're a troll account desperate for some clout by speaking ill of your champ.

When you put down the spatula and go on to achieve anything in business management within a large multi million pound organisation then I'll take your criticisms of a CEO seriously.

That's where we'll be with your hero on the board.
There's only two things I flip, one is yer mar and the other is you the finger.
wum.
Board oot.

 

[Damo_1878]

Isn’t the point of a forum to discuss things though, this extends to any activity connected with the club or should we all stay silent in how any such protests are executed?

I for one, applaud them which is why I try not to be critical because as you say, all I am doing is typing on a forum, so I think what they are doing is admirable but can we not discuss the actions taken?

I think they have done a lot of good, positive things to highlight the malaise (let’s face it there is a lot of evidence to highlight) but I also think todays Open letter was probably a little too strong in referencing someone‘s health but other than that, I agree with the overarching objective.

It just feels to me that, where BK and DBB are concerned - speak up….shout loudly from the rooftops…..when fan protests are discussed…..shut up and don’t say anything. It reminds me of the stories my dad used to tell me about Union bullies on the floor if workers didn’t agree with them after a public show of hands (until secret ballots were introduced)

We all want the same thing - the removal of this Board - I would think we are all united in that so as far as I am concerned all areas are up for debate/discussion.

People should ask themselves

Why were the Everton Football Club Annual General Meeting (AGM) cancelled when they were? Unannounced.

Was this really the best idea or in the best interests of the club?

 

[Blue peter]

People should ask themselves

Why were the Everton Football Club Annual General Meeting (AGM) cancelled when they were? Unannounced.

Was this really the best idea or in the best interests of the club?

Nope absolutely not….I agree with you that there is no way they should have been cancelled but it is the modus operandi of this Board to remove any function of accountability - completely with you on that

 

[Damo_1878]

Isn’t the point of a forum to discuss things though, this extends to any activity connected with the club or should we all stay silent in how any such protests are executed?

I for one, applaud them which is why I try not to be critical because as you say, all I am doing is typing on a forum, so I think what they are doing is admirable but can we not discuss the actions taken?

I think they have done a lot of good, positive things to highlight the malaise (let’s face it there is a lot of evidence to highlight) but I also think todays Open letter was probably a little too strong in referencing someone‘s health but other than that, I agree with the overarching objective.

It just feels to me that, where BK and DBB are concerned - speak up….shout loudly from the rooftops…..when fan protests are discussed…..shut up and don’t say anything. It reminds me of the stories my dad used to tell me about Union bullies on the floor if workers didn’t agree with them after a public show of hands (until secret ballots were introduced)

We all want the same thing - the removal of this Board - I would think we are all united in that so as far as I am concerned all areas are up for debate/discussion.

Why this is all important?

EFC AGM cancellation

Fitness of board of directors members to carry out their roles/duties

Read the Companies Act section 172

 

[ultra]

I mean that some fans are more concerned with criticising other fans than directing their angst towards the real culprits - the people that run the club.

You have a consortium of fan groups who are prepared to unite and go out on the streets in an attempt to get something done about the situation. Then you have a load of happy clappers on internet forums who mock and deride their actions, pull apart and criticise everything they say, and call for them to stop. All of which plays into the hands of the owner and board.

It's no wonder we have such difficulty getting things done about the running of the club when anyone who does anything gets shot down like that. It would drive you to despair.

Excellent post.
The happy clappers and Billbots are best ignored imo - the Alltogether now groups are doing sterling work in bringing pressure onto a continually failing Board. I applaud them.

 

[Blue peter]

Why this is all important?

EFC AGM cancellation

Fitness of board of directors members to carry out their roles

Read the Companies Act section 172
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Yep not disputing any of that - that’s in black and white….not sure what it has to do with my post above?

 

[Damo_1878]

Yep not disputing any of that - that’s in black and white….not sure what it has to do with my post above?

Fact is, if a board of director is unfit to carry out their role/duties and the club members cannot ask questions at EFC AGM (public meeting for members with published minutes) including if a director is fit enough to carry out the role/duties

This is very very bad position for the club/company to be placed in

It in itself is highly damaging

 

[ForeverBlue92]

That's where we'll be with your hero on the board.
There's only two things I flip, one is yer mar and the other is you the finger.
wum.
Board oot.

They dont even trust you to flip the pattys then ? You'll get there one day son

 

[Toffeepot]

Yes they do

If they fail to answer truthfully they are in breach of fiduciary duties to shareholders and can be sued under The Companies Act

He is judged by the outcome of decisions made, if decisions that have been made have not been in the financial interest of those shareholders he owes a fiduciary care to, but he is not obliged to disclose private health challenges if asked at an AGM.
Stop and think about it for a minute before going all John Grisham on us
Fiduciary duties and the requisite duty of care concerns potential conflicts of interest or persistent failure to engage with the role itself to the financial detriment of the stakeholders. If those things can be shown then the director's health is not relevant, and frankly nobody's business unless he chooses to share it.
You seem to think that somebody can throw a few shillings at a company and then be entitled to a full medical report on the directors on threat of litigation