The Moment You Knew He Had Failed...

[GrandOldSte117]

But are those his set criteria for success or what Ste cries about on an Internet forum?

What Ste discusses on an internet forum like anyone else is entitled to do. But some people equate complaints about a massively miserable football team to 'crying'.

 

[BullensRoad]

This was the game i finally broke with Martinez. That season was full of games like this. But this one and the in game management was insane. Soon as Lukaku missed the pen to go 3-0 up you just knew we’d get beat.

Be interested to know how his interview went.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Well yes, but would that be in any way surprising? Personally I think saying just stay up and nothing more would be remiss of them, so I suppose it just depends where you draw the line.

Yeah, fair point given how we've been run in recent times lol

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

What Ste discusses on an internet forum like anyone else is entitled to do. But some people equate complaints about a massively miserable football team to 'crying'.

Yes mate, but you're not really engaging with my point are you?

 

[GrandOldSte117]

Yes mate, but you're not really engaging with my point are you?

I just think your point is a 'gotcha' of some sorts with no real substance. So the board say his job is to stay up? The football is still shocking and we conceded 7 to Bournemouth in a week. If the job is to not get relegated then surely we can pick someone better suited than what's being served up.

 

[B8's REVENGE]

But are those his set criteria for success or what Ste cries about on an Internet forum?

You leave Ste's cryteria alone

 

[NorthernBlue]

Be interested to know how his interview went.

I’d have him back like for a laugh. At least it was entertainment. Not this long precession of dirge we’ve been served since.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

Martinez: QPR; At home, 3-0 up and the crowd get on the players backs for backwards sideways football.

Keeping the ball at 3-0 seems a sensible thing to do to me. The same people moaning there were probably crying "game management" when we lost 3-2 to West Ham (after Martinez himself seemingly ran into the pitch and missed a penalty to go 3-0 up).

 

[degsy]

Keeping the ball at 3-0 seems a sensible thing to do to me. The same people moaning there were probably crying "game management" when we lost 3-2 to West Ham (after Martinez himself seemingly ran into the pitch and missed a penalty to go 3-0 up).

Give over. The crowd knew and justly poo-pood the poo-poo they were watching.

Moral; never poo-poo a poo-poo.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

Give over. The crowd knew and justly poo-pood the poo-poo they were watching.

Moral; never poo-poo a poo-poo.

Great stuff... Nurse Fletcher Brown or should I say Nurse Fleischer Baum..

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

Give over. The crowd knew and justly poo-pood the poo-poo they were watching.

Reminds me of those "3-0 without Ferguson" chants that some boneheads used to sing, not realising his absence was largely the reason we were 3-0 up. ?

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I just think your point is a 'gotcha' of some sorts with no real substance. So the board say his job is to stay up? The football is still shocking and we conceded 7 to Bournemouth in a week. If the job is to not get relegated then surely we can pick someone better suited than what's being served up.

Not really trying for a gotcha, just trying to tease out what is meant by failing. Who defines it and why?

 

[GrandOldSte117]

Not really trying for a gotcha, just trying to tease out what is meant by failing. Who defines it and why?

failing is Everton. Everton is failing.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

failing is Everton. Everton is failing.

If I didn't know better I'd say you are on the WUM buddy.

 

[degsy]

Reminds me of those "3-0 without Ferguson" chants that some boneheads used to sing, not realising his absence was largely the reason we were 3-0 up. ?

Anyway, on reflection and playing the hindsight card
Martinez:
1) Boxing Day Vs Sunderland, that was the beginning of the end.
2) Then the Palace game.
I just thought - more of Everton That.

Easy to say now I know, but first twinge of apprehension was when the Muriel went up on the side of the main stand.
Tempting fate, I knew there was a word -

Hubris -

1. • (in Greek tragedy and what is Everton if not a footballing greek tragedy??) excessive pride towards or defiance of the gods, leading to nemesis.

Edit; Not helped by Kenwright giving him a contact extension after1 season