The Moyes legacy: reflections.

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Think he’d make a better DOF than manager tbh

 

[ilikecheese]

I know people don't remember it, but at times we played some cracking football under Moyes.

Not always, but sometimes it just clicked.

I remember it clearly. His teams wilted like delicate flowers under any chance of winning something. He was a coward in the big moment.

 

[kiss the crest]

How depressing this is to be an Evertonian, on the day we sell
Richarlison, the takeover is finished and this thread pops up about a manager who is bang average who managed us once

 

[twoblue]

Moyes set this club back decades by achieving mediocrity on a pittance thus making Bill Kenright seem competent and keeping him in charge of the club while other clubs passed us and we missed out on at least Man City's owners

Moyes fault for doing well despite the circumstances?

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

I don't regret being anti Moyes, I loved him generally while he was here although towards the end I thought he was too defeatest. I remember he put out a weakened side away in the derby and I was raging.

Think he was running out of ideas or motivation slightly in the end knowing that we were never going to consistently break that glass ceiling without investment.

I thought the farewell thing on the pitch was small time and embarrassing. It was his right to leave and go to Utd but as soon as he announced it we should have shook his hand and stuck him on gardening leave.

There's a way to leave a job and be well thought of and with his comments coupled with trying to pinch our players it sullied a lot of the goodwill I had.

But times a great healer and I think Moyes will look back and know that his best years were spent with us. I wish him well.

 

[twoblue]

He did a half decent job but imho had reached the level of his skills. He had ten years admittedly with little funds but the club and him needed to move on. Unfortunately we didn't move forward with the correct manager, quite simple really.

Give moyes the spending we had since he left we would have been top four.

 

[trueblue84]

I remember it clearly. His teams wilted like delicate flowers under any chance of winning something. He was a coward in the big moment.

In hindsight, with the money he had to spend and the teams he assembled, we probably had no right to be challenging for a cup.

A couple more years and I reckon he would've won something.

 

[Huyton Layne]

In hindsight, with the money he had to spend and the teams he assembled, we probably had no right to be challenging for a cup.

A couple more years and I reckon he would've won something.

He had a chance last season and bottled to a Frankfurt team that'd spent 26 million in 2 seasons and he'd spent 140 million since arriving at West Ham

 

[Bluestar]

He had a chance last season and bottled to a Frankfurt team that'd spent 26 million in 2 seasons and he'd spent 140 million since arriving at West Ham

I wish we had a chance of bottling it in a big European game. Sigh.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Joe Royle was the last manager to achieve anything of value at Everton Football Club.
Every manager since has represented a varying degree of failure and have added nought to our history or honours.
Certainly no legacy worth having.
That includes Moyes.
That leaves this debate as defining the least worst manager since and yeah that was Moyes.

 

[atypicalusername]

Credit to Moyes for turning around the sinking ship and giving us a few years in Europe. Working well within a budget and having a good eye for a bargain. If only we had won the 09 final...

 

[sw blue]

I remember it clearly. His teams wilted like delicate flowers under any chance of winning something. He was a coward in the big moment.

He most certainly wasn't perfect, and I hated the fact that we had become 'David Moyes' FC.

However, we never had a relegation battle under any of his full seasons with us.

In the final Rooney year when we ended up with 39 points, we only slumped that low because we lost the last 5 games of the season. We were never in real trouble.

We could do with that sort of stability for the next few years.

Hopefully Frank is the man, as I hate these constant rebuilds.

 

[buddy]

My problem with him was i think Blue Bill said to him dont bitch about transfer money and i will make you,one of the best paid managers in the prem.He took it instead of banging on his door and when he had a good team and demanding more transfer money or he would leave.

 

[Joey66]

Too much hoofball in his era - knife to a gunfight mentality - made some bargain signings - best football when AlAn Irvine was his assistant.,...Gordon Lee a far better team came closer to winning something with a more skilful team ......
DMs record since leaving he has achieved nothing ......

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

Too much hoofball in his era - knife to a gunfight mentality - made some bargain signings - best football when AlAn Irvine was his assistant.,...Gordon Lee a far better team came closer to winning something with a more skilful team ......
DMs record since leaving he has achieved nothing ......

The closest both came was a cup final. However Lee took over a team that was already in the semis (Vs Bolton who were a division below). Moyes had a very difficult run to the final in 2009 and also faced a much better team in his final (Chelsea) than Lee did in his (Villa). Lee's best league position (3rd) only marginally better than Moyes (4th) in an era where we had far greater clout in the transfer market.

Also Moyes left Everton in a decent position, Lee spent his final two seasons securing top flight safety with two games left. One left because he was offered one of the world's top coaching job,the other was sacked because nobody wanted him at the club any more.