The next manager appointment (new thread)

[Delargeinho]

Changed my vote to Mister X....

It was leaked that Ralf Rangnick was set to take up a DoF role with Everton under Friedkin the 1st time, I`d love to pair him with fellow countryman Thomas Tuchel, that combo would make sense whilst also being a massive upgrade on what we currently have.

I'm not sure whether their personalities would work together.

They have good football skills, but both have a really strong character. Tuchel had problems with that at Dortmund and Bayern for example.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Rice was not poor at all - they held a line very well, which was their plan, and his passing was spot on - he provided the assist for Bowen IIRC, who played probably his best game for WHam.

Key word is consistent, as I know about that one time he finished 4th that everyone loves keep bringing up, which isn't consistency, check where we were the season after. We were consistently in the run for 7th, no more no less, and he's not a manager that will kick on. Occasionally pushed it to 6th (as I said), but the goal was 7th. Even got 7th with Man Utd to further solidify his "best of the rest" syndrome. WHam finished 14th in the season with the cup and were running along with us for points until the last few games - barely got to 40 points, luckily there were very crap teams in the league they could take points off of. Also lucky for us as we were similarly crap ourselves like.

Same narrative as "Dyche got Burnley into Europe once", ignoring the fact they bombed out instantly and finished 15th, not building on anything.

As above, it's not consistent - we also reached the 2009 FA cup final and the expected outcome happened. Any other day and Fiorentina win that final too. His net spend is also not great for someone who is apparently very tight with money.

If you like limited, negative, 'knife to a gunfight' football in the current year - good for you, happy you can enjoy it, might as well keep Dyche and keep alienating any fan that wants their team to play to win. Football's moved on from this decades ago. I prefer to have a combative team too but set up to at least try to win occasionally, guess it's the entitlement talking.

Also, honestly, entitled to what? I've not seen us do well consistently in my entire life and Moyes was our manager for a majority of that, of course I don't want him back. He also instantly belittled in a few ways us as soon as he left which conveniently people are turning a blind eye to for some reason.

Basically this, but without the privilege sadly:

To go with the fact that emotional rehiring very, extremely rarely leads to anything good, and we're should know better from the situation(s) with Kendall.

No, Lucas Paqueta, of yellow card gambling fame, provided the assist.

And to say we were in the run for seventh “no more, no less” during the Moyes years is patent bs.

 

[Bluewolf]

As above, it's not consistent - we also reached the 2009 FA cup final and the expected outcome happened. Any other day and Fiorentina win that final too. His net spend is also not great for someone who is apparently very tight with money.

If you like limited, negative, 'knife to a gunfight' football in the current year - good for you, happy you can enjoy it, might as well keep Dyche and keep alienating any fan that wants their team to play to win. Football's moved on from this decades ago. I prefer to have a combative team too but set up to at least try to win occasionally, guess it's the entitlement talking.

Also, honestly, entitled to what? I've not seen us do well consistently in my entire life and Moyes was our manager for a majority of that, of course I don't want him back. He also instantly belittled in a few ways us as soon as he left which conveniently people are turning a blind eye to for some reason.

This sentence just shows you dont have a clue what you're on about. You're just butt hurt over moyes saying something that was true about everton at the time.

dyche is as close to moyes as moyes is to pep. The dyche too moyes comparisons are just lazy and show nothing more then a lack of footballing intelligence.

"Their both defensive managers" so is simeone the same as dyche? Is tuchel? Their both defensive managers?

You want to see your team try to win? Good for ypu i want to see my team actually win. Martinez team tried to win, was some of the worst football ive ever seen.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Have it both ways, mate.

Everton have won 5 domestic cup competitions in our 136 year history. 1 every 27 years. And for 100 of those years we would have had financial parity with all of the best teams in the country. Yet Moyes is expected to win one in an 11 year period. The FA cup was won by two non top 4 teams in that period. The EFL cup was won by three non top 4 teams. Bedwetters.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Been the bane of his career that, just look what happened to him at eternal paupers Man Utd.

He had one season their and didn't actually spend that much. They didn't get home the targets he wanted and no one has actually performed well there after him.

 

[jazzy]

I'm not sure whether their personalities would work together.

They have good football skills, but both have a really strong character. Tuchel had problems with that at Dortmund and Bayern for example.

I agree , Ralf and Turzic looks a better match

 

[DualityNSNO]

No, Lucas Paqueta, of yellow card gambling fame, provided the assist.

And to say we were in the run for seventh “no more, no less” during the Moyes years is patent bs.

As is making him out as some competitor then, good to know.

Then again you're named Job for the Moyes, so it's pretty easy to spot where your final stand is gonna be.

This sentence just shows you dont have a clue what you're on about. You're just butt hurt over moyes saying something that was true about everton at the time.

dyche is as close to moyes as moyes is to pep. The dyche too moyes comparisons are just lazy and show nothing more then a lack of footballing intelligence.

"Their both defensive managers" so is simeone the same as dyche? Is tuchel? Their both defensive managers?

You want to see your team try to win? Good for ypu i want to see my team actually win. Martinez team tried to win, was some of the worst football ive ever seen.

Oh so you ignored the rest, good stuff, another Davek.

So you're happy with being called small time by the manager who brought us to the level we are at, putting in cheeky sly bids for our best players and telling them that Everton (which he was managing up until a month ago) are not a good enough team for them? Good, nice, David Moyes FC style logic.

First off, "they're both defensive managers", but it seems all of your education was in football intelligence. No idea why you'd bring up Simeone in this, hilarious to think you equate all 3 in the same bracket and just shows you've not even seen any Atletico Madrid games that haven't been against Real or Barca. Then again, you're the football intelligence megamind, so what does anyone else know, right?

Dyche and Moyes are cut from the same cloth, however Moyes moved past "proper brexit 4-4-2" when he had to, 20 years ago, whereas Dyche never did and never will. The rest - stubbornness, overly-defensive setup and attitude, putting down your own chances, knife to a gunfight, stereotypical signings ("big man up top") - are 90% the same. The other 10% are from Moyes actually managing games better than Dyche, but that's a hilariously low bar.

Dyche is closer to Moyes than you seem to think, Mr. Football Intelligence PhD, and replacing one with the other will be a slight improvement at absolute best and a detriment to any growth for another year or two. Sit with Dyche until the end of the year for stability - okay, sure. Then bring Moyes back in for... stability again? OK.

 

[Drico]

Everton have won 5 domestic cup competitions in our 136 year history. 1 every 27 years. And for 100 of those years we would have had financial parity with all of the best teams in the country. Yet Moyes is expected to win one in an 11 year period. The FA cup was won by two non top 4 teams in that period. The EFL cup was won by three non top 4 teams. Bedwetters.

Any manager at Everton for 11 years who wins nothing is a footnote in our history, unworthy of the adoration his mediocrity still appears to inspire.

 

[Mercedes]

I'm available.

Much cheaper option than Dyche, absolutely guaranteed I wouldn't be more than 1 point worse off!

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Any manager at Everton for 11 years who wins nothing is a footnote in our history, unworthy of the adoration his mediocrity still appears to inspire.

Drivel.

 

[Dublin blue 75]

Eddie Howe strongly linked with England position over Lee Carsley today.

Can we get him back under consideration here - could he possibly also be an attraction for younger players ?

 

[Drico]

Drivel.

“You can’t handle the truth.”

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

“You can’t handle the truth.”

Clueless.

 

[Delargeinho]

Any manager at Everton for 11 years who wins nothing is a footnote in our history, unworthy of the adoration his mediocrity still appears to inspire.

Historically it is. This club was top half under Harvey and Kendall in the 80s and won titles, what caused such a down fall. I still need tutoring in Everton history...

Royle was the highlight of a terrible 90s, 6th and FA Cup, but this club finished between 13-17 every season than that in league between 92-02.

Did Moyes bring mediocrity back in the club or put it at least on a level that you are top half consistent, can get European spots where this club must belong and deserves to belong.

 

[Drico]

Historically it is. This club was top half under Harvey and Kendall in the 80s and won titles, what caused such a down fall. I still need tutoring in Everton history...

Royle was the highlight of a terrible 90s, 6th and FA Cup, but this club finished between 13-17 every season than that in league between 92-02.

Did Moyes bring mediocrity back in the club or put it at least on a level that you are top half consistent, can get European spots where this club must belong and deserves to belong.

Moyes did a good job - in the era he was employed, which was the most notorious era of our modern history: the Kenwright decline.

Like our current manager, he would never have been appointed had we had genuine resource and ambition. He was appointed because we were in dire straits, and he improved us massively. He was the ideal manager for a chairman who had no real money, no real ambition, and was determined to remain in control. Moyes ensured Kenwright's survival, but could never win even a League Cup for us despite having 11 years in which to compete.

I was very grateful for what he did, but the idea that he could even be mentioned as a possible contender for the Everton job when the Friedkins come in is hilarious. He was the ideal manager for a broken, unamitious club run by a venal, self-serving, useless owner. He shouldn't get in the door for a chat with a genuinely ambitious club.