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The next manager appointment (new thread)

The next manager appointment

  • David Moyes

    Votes: 142 17.3%

  • Carlos Corberan

    Votes: 73 8.9%

  • Wayne Rooney

    Votes: 16 1.9%

  • Thomas Frank

    Votes: 98 11.9%

  • Graham Potter

    Votes: 119 14.5%

  • Marcelo Bielsa

    Votes: 16 1.9%

  • Abel Ferreira

    Votes: 7 0.9%

  • Imanol Alguacil

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • Henrik Rydstrom

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • Kjetil Knutsen

    Votes: 7 0.9%

  • Davide Ancelotti

    Votes: 70 8.5%

  • Sarina Wiegman

    Votes: 23 2.8%

  • Gareth Southgate

    Votes: 13 1.6%

  • Sergio Conceicao

    Votes: 53 6.5%

  • Roger Schmidt

    Votes: 2 0.2%

  • Edin Terzic

    Votes: 29 3.5%

  • Kasper Hjulmand

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • Christian Streich

    Votes: 3 0.4%

  • A caretaker like Big Sam, Warnock etc

    Votes: 11 1.3%

  • Mister X not mentioned

    Votes: 136 16.6%
  • Total voters
    821
Fralahna said:
Rafael, however, won us the Florida cup, therefore deserves most of our adoration of the managers weve had since the 90s. Right?

What moyes did with poor team with no budget was inspirational. Especially during a time when billionaire owners started buying clubs, monopolising English football. To expect everton to win anything when we could barely buy player, let alone buy a league, is ridiculous. Moyes did the next best thing and steadied the ship, and got us challenging for European spots.

I'm not saying I think he's the right man go take over but saying he's a footnote in our history is incredibly disrespectful.
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Any manager who wins nothing at the club - especially one here for over a decade is precisely a footnote in the clubs history mate.

Promoting him as anything more to that is buying into the 'we are a small club' mentality that Moyes along with Kenwright tried to ingrained into the club to kill of all pressure to be more than that - which is the club's entire motto ...

Historically we are one of the most successful clubs in the country, we also never in my lifetime of 50 years have ever crashed out the league - which itself is a huge achievement - and only one that 'big' clubs can boast (and not even all of those).

To willingly accept mediocrity or just making up the numbers every season is spitting in the face of Cattrrick, Moore, Kendall, even Royle for whom ever accepting that was unacceptable.

Will it take time and effort - ofc, but until we believe we can and have people in charge whose aim and goal is to achieve that then we will never ever even start the long process.

Southall is one hundred percent correct, every season the club's goals should be to win every single game they play. Since Royle was in charge we've rarely had that attitude (Martinez did but was fatally flawed as a manager)
 
Naturally we’ve really suffered these last few years under Moshiri. But believe me with the new ownership and the chance to manage Everton in arguably one of the best football stadiums in Europe, will prove quite a draw for any manager. We just need to hope and pray we stay up this season.
 
bluestevon said:
Any manager who wins nothing at the club - especially one here for over a decade is precisely a footnote in the clubs history mate.

Promoting him as anything more to that is buying into the 'we are a small club' mentality that Moyes along with Kenwright tried to ingrained into the club to kill of all pressure to be more than that - which is the club's entire motto ...

Historically we are one of the most successful clubs in the country, we also never in my lifetime of 50 years have ever crashed out the league - which itself is a huge achievement - and only one that 'big' clubs can boast (and not even all of those).

To willingly accept mediocrity or just making up the numbers every season is spitting in the face of Cattrrick, Moore, Kendall, even Royle for whom ever accepting that was unacceptable.

Will it take time and effort - ofc, but until we believe we can and have people in charge whose aim and goal is to achieve that then we will never ever even start the long process.

Southall is one hundred percent correct, every season the club's goals should be to win every single game they play. Since Royle was in charge we've rarely had that attitude (Martinez did but was fatally flawed as a manager)
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I think a lot of fans who remember the 80s etc might not be taking into consideration the circumstances the club was in when Moyes took over. Yes historically ae are one of the best clubs in the world, but we havent been in my lifetime. We were fighting relegation and he got us challenging for Europe. If not for moyes, perhaps that "avoid relegation" boast wouldn't be there. I think you've got to be respectful to his time with us. Sadly we didn't win anything but English football began to take a different shape, where people could buy the league. Now we have a top x number of teams who will always do well because of their finances. Moyes turned the team away from relegation and got us scrapping with the big boys. Still worthy of respect for what he did with us
 
bluestevon said:
Any manager who wins nothing at the club - especially one here for over a decade is precisely a footnote in the clubs history mate.

Promoting him as anything more to that is buying into the 'we are a small club' mentality that Moyes along with Kenwright tried to ingrained into the club to kill of all pressure to be more than that - which is the club's entire motto ...

Historically we are one of the most successful clubs in the country, we also never in my lifetime of 50 years have ever crashed out the league - which itself is a huge achievement - and only one that 'big' clubs can boast (and not even all of those).

To willingly accept mediocrity or just making up the numbers every season is spitting in the face of Cattrrick, Moore, Kendall, even Royle for whom ever accepting that was unacceptable.

Will it take time and effort - ofc, but until we believe we can and have people in charge whose aim and goal is to achieve that then we will never ever even start the long process.

Southall is one hundred percent correct, every season the club's goals should be to win every single game they play. Since Royle was in charge we've rarely had that attitude (Martinez did but was fatally flawed as a manager)
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The recent in depth interview Moyes gave was really a very sad reflection on the decline of the club as a whole I thought.

Undoubtedly we would have his time back than what we have had to endure since but the nostalgia surrounding that Fiorentina game is really cringeworthy and beneath us in my opinion.

Going out on penalties in a last 16 tie at home in the UEFA cup. That represents the "highlight' of European competition for Everton in almost 40 years.

That alone is just so sobering to reflect upon. TFG have their work cut out.
 

Noisy noise annoys said:
It is soon to be 2025 (by the time Dyche is gone) and people STILL WANT MOYES?!?!?

FFS, it is pathetic, the least ambitious option out there. A sure fire way to regress further as a club.
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I've actually changed my mind on it. Had the new owners not agreed a deal with Moshiri I felt Moyes was perfect for the dire situation we were in. However if the Friedkins are ambitious like they were with Roma then I would change my choice.

I would be more inclined to hire a more progressive younger manager. I'd even consider Potter as I believe he may have some fight back after a lengthy absence and in his first few roles was effective, I think he made mistakes in moving clubs too often, but I don't think he would do that again.
 
johnjoeefc said:
I've actually changed my mind on it. Had the new owners not agreed a deal with Moshiri I felt Moyes was perfect for the dire situation we were in. However if the Friedkins are ambitious like they were with Roma then I would change my choice.

I would be more inclined to hire a more progressive younger manager. I'd even consider Potter as I believe he may have some fight back after a lengthy absence and in his first few roles was effective, I think he made mistakes in moving clubs too often, but I don't think he would do that again.
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We need to look forward - Moyes is just a slightly better (older) Dyche but also sh@ on us twice.
 

johnjoeefc said:
I've actually changed my mind on it. Had the new owners not agreed a deal with Moshiri I felt Moyes was perfect for the dire situation we were in. However if the Friedkins are ambitious like they were with Roma then I would change my choice.

I would be more inclined to hire a more progressive younger manager. I'd even consider Potter as I believe he may have some fight back after a lengthy absence and in his first few roles was effective, I think he made mistakes in moving clubs too often, but I don't think he would do that again.
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I think to some degree we have seen everything that Potter has to offer (albeit with a short time at Chelsea) but it was similar to Brighton just with a more extensively assembled squad. I’d rather go with a more unproven manager (if we are going for a young, up and coming profile of manager)
 

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