TIM HOWARD THOUGH

[Chang Elephant]

Software programmers build his mistakes into their games

 

[MikeH72]

Remember that Norwich game when he dived backwards into his own goal to concede a last minute equaliser from Bassong?

 

[ijjysmith]

Hahahaa amazing. I was only able to find this one of him being beaten at his near post in another game at Ewood Park

Absolutely no recollection of Fowler playing for Blackburn in my head.

 

[ijjysmith]

Remember that Norwich game when he dived backwards into his own goal to concede a last minute equaliser from Bassong?

YES

 

[USABlue]

Does anyone actually believe he's an average or better keeper compared to the rest of the league?

no not at the moment and no one has said that he was. However he hasn't been crap his whole career here or the sole reason we're in 11th right now either. He was decent for the majority, but has had a dreadful season this year and due to age probably should move on. plenty of people (even those supporting Tim have said this).

 

[MikeH72]

Don't forget Chelsea at home, letting Ivanovic and Costa shots go straight through him.
Rushing out like a clown for no reason at United
Terrible positioning for the free kick at Sunderland
Giving Soldado the whole goal to aim at against Tottenham away
Beaten at his near post against Hull at home
Palming a weak shot straight to Bobby Zamora against QPR at home.

Probably more but I think I've proved my point.

Forgot about him running out and clattering McArthur to give away a penalty in that Palace game, which completely changed the course of the match

Remember his and Osman's slapstick comedy act against Sunderland last season when they combined to give away a penalty and send us down to 10 men?

 

[carolinablue232]

Half way? Hahaha nowhere near half way. His awful kick put pressure on the defence when it wasnt needed. If he let it run out of play we'd never concede.

Had any other player tried to contest anything they did, we'd never concede either.

 

[ijjysmith]

Forgot about him running out and clattering McArthur to give away a penalty in that Palace game, which completely changed the course of the match

Remember his and Osman's slapstick comedy act against Sunderland last season when they combined to give away a penalty and send us down to 10 men?

When we were in the most incredible form!

 

[carolinablue232]

There's a fair few reasons why I don't think we'd be anywhere near top 4 mate.

Sadly Howard is one of the major ones. For me.

I've actually forgotten what it's like to have a proper keeper at Everton.

But it's not the only reason of course.

Can I ask you a question, what was your opinion of Martinez bringing in Howard straight back in even though Robles hadnt done too badly at all? (I realise this isn't Howard's fault by the way. At least I hope it wasn't!)

I said when it happened Robles shouldn't have been dropped. And I don't rate Robles at all really from his Wigan days or his time with us. He didn't have much to do in his time, but he didn't do much wrong to lose his place. I do think we focused much more on defense with him in the sticks than we did before Howard was injured.

 

[Macca99]

Just off the top of my head:

Leicester at home, both goals
Gerrard free kick at Anfield
Spurs away, pushing it straight to Eriksen
Chelsea away in the last minute, woeful punch and then beaten by weak shot at near post
Stoke away, beaten by a weak Moses header from 400 yards out
Palace at home, beaten in the air by Fraizer Campbell as the ball went through his hands

I'll get some more, don't worry

Sunderland away, Did the same with the free kick he did at anfield

 

[MikeH72]

When we were in the most incredible form!

Then there was that time he clattered Kuyt for a penalty at Anfield when we were leading 2-1

 

[sd_1992]

Remember when Given came to the edge of his box to collect a cross...

 

[MikeH72]

Come to think of it, I can't think of any keeper in the history of the game that has made so many consistent clangers over a 6 or 7 year period

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

Forgot about him running out and clattering McArthur to give away a penalty in that Palace game, which completely changed the course of the match

Remember his and Osman's slapstick comedy act against Sunderland last season when they combined to give away a penalty and send us down to 10 men?

That Sunderland one would have been a dream if the penalty hadn't gone in. Osman and Howard off the pitch within the space of a minute.

 

[blue_aussie05]

So with the United mistake thats 17 points (i think). And im sure theres more.

Based on the above examples, assuming if TH didn't concede those specific goals mentioned by mikeh72:
Leicester - we got 1 point instead of 3
Liverpool - we got 1 point instead of 3
Spurs - we got 0 points instead of 1
Chelsea - we got 0 points instead of 1
Stoke - Moses doesn't score we still lose 1-0
Palace - we got 0 points instead of 1
United - we got 0 points instead of 1

That's still only 8 points, not 17