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Rook said:
Everton before country by far. If there is a big Everton game I literally count down the days and hours. I haven't done that all that much with the national team. However if we ever start playing the kind of football we did in 2009-2010 pre-davies crash the gap would narrow considerably.
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I don't think Americans, in general, choose. Most of us have american football, hockey, basketball and baseball teams to support as well.

Having said that, for soccer specifically, we didn't have a league televised here until the late 90s, so the best soccer we could watch was the national team, which may be why there is some bias towards international football.
 
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SamMurphy said:
that line alone is a reason why many people dislike Americans, for some American patriotism stems above being proud of your country. It becomes believing you are superior. What do you have that other western countries don't this is the part that I don't understand. I've been to the USA twice and other than great food, entertainment and the ability to feed crocodiles while playing mini-golf, I struggle to see what else you have that is better than the rest? You have the highest GDP but that is because there is 300 million in the USA. Australia, Monaco, Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Canada and more have a higher GDP per capita. Not making this out as if all Americans are like this as you are from it, but you seem to have far more overly ignorant people like the one who wrote this article on average than other countries.
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We have a very insular culture which leads to people not even being aware of how things are better (or worse) elsewhere. When you have hundreds of millions of people with a shared language and cultural experience and can travel hundreds of miles in almost any direction and find more of those people... Yeah, it might make sense as to why this attitude towards the rest of the world exists. Not that I agree with it.

It's a bit sad that the average American doesn't get out more, but the whole "ignorance of the outside world" thing is hardly something unique to the US, the Japanese have a similar but slightly less chest thumpy world outlook.

Personally, I've lived in Germany for a time. I've seen what a real goddamn healthcare system looks like that's affordable and high quality even for the poor. I've also experienced friends of mine getting turned away by the bouncer at a club because they "looked Turkish" and Bavarians talking casually about their Christianity classes in public school, not realizing what could possibly be wrong with that scenario.
 
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FCBarça said:
There isn't enough scoring or violence in the sport to make it a much bigger sport in the country...And without incessant timeouts and commercial breaks it makes it marketing nightmare in a country where branding and commercialization is a major objective
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I love me a good strawman.
 
Garrick said:
We have a very insular culture which leads to people not even being aware of how things are better (or worse) elsewhere. When you have hundreds of millions of people with a shared language and cultural experience and can travel hundreds of miles in almost any direction and find more of those people... Yeah, it might make sense as to why this attitude towards the rest of the world exists. Not that I agree with it.

It's a bit sad that the average American doesn't get out more, but the whole "ignorance of the outside world" thing is hardly something unique to the US, the Japanese have a similar but slightly less chest thumpy world outlook.

Personally, I've lived in Germany for a time. I've seen what a real goddamn healthcare system looks like that's affordable and high quality even for the poor. I've also experienced friends of mine getting turned away by the bouncer at a club because he "looked Turkish" and Bavarians talking casually about their Christianity classes in public school, not realizing what could possibly be wrong with that scenario.
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New Yorkers...from the city of New York...barely give two poos about what goes on outside of New York.
 

Garrick said:
We have a very insular culture which leads to people not even being aware of how things are better (or worse) elsewhere. When you have hundreds of millions of people with a shared language and cultural experience and can travel hundreds of miles in almost any direction and find more of those people... Yeah, it might make sense as to why this attitude towards the rest of the world exists. Not that I agree with it.

It's a bit sad that the average American doesn't get out more, but the whole "ignorance of the outside world" thing is hardly something unique to the US, the Japanese have a similar but slightly less chest thumpy world outlook.

Personally, I've lived in Germany for a time. I've seen what a real goddamn healthcare system looks like that's affordable and high quality even for the poor. I've also experienced friends of mine getting turned away by the bouncer at a club because he "looked Turkish" and Bavarians talking casually about their Christianity classes in public school, not realizing what could possibly be wrong with that scenario.
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I completly agree with you there are going to be idiots like that wherever you go, just seems like there is a higher proportion in the US.
 

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