VAR

kenada_blue said:
Because rules in football are open to interpretation apart from if a ball crosses a line.

The offside calls shouldn't be an issue but incompetence has made it so.

Whole thing needs binning IMO or just leave it to the ref to ask if he wants help over a decision he's unsure off. They used to do that with the linesman. Could've done it with the 4th official in the stands but never did.
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When the debate about VAR comes up, I always ask this question: has VAR improved the game? The answer is, pretty much to the man and woman, no.*

The technology is not to blame - it's used more than effectively in numerous other sports. The failures come from those who utilise it and the inconsistencies.

*I do recollect BigOil saying it had, so obviously that's another reason to get rid of it.
 

VAR was brought in allegedly to correct any “clear and obvious error” made by the on field officials.

If it takes a multiplicity of viewings from umpteen different angles and lines need to drawn drawn across computer screens to ascertain that a fellow’s big toe was offside then obviously there is no “clear and obvious error” to correct.

IMO if a referee’s decision cannot be shown to to mistaken after a short, say 30 Seconds, review by VAR then that decision should stand.
 
PhilM said:
When the debate about VAR comes up, I always ask this question: has VAR improved the game? The answer is, pretty much to the man and woman, no.*

The technology is not to blame - it's used more than effectively in numerous other sports. The failures come from those who utilise it and the inconsistencies.

*I do recollect BigOil saying it had, so obviously that's another reason to get rid of it.
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Anyone that believes this lacks a fundamental understanding of what makes the game what it is in the first place, and why people across the world have watched and loved it for over a century. No shade directed to towards Big Oil, or any Americans for that matter. It’s not their fault, it’s a result of the sports culture and general consumer mentality that they’ve been spoonfed over the years.

The game has shifted to become an entertainment product rather than a competitive sport, and it is all the worse for it. If the Americans enjoy this product more then fine, have it, but it’s no longer the game that we have grown up with and I don’t think we will ever really be able to buy into it. I don’t miss going the game one bit anymore personally, haven’t for years. I enjoy going non-league games far more where there’s no WWE-style circus and corruption getting in the way.
 
trueblue84 said:
Kaveh solhekol is by far the worst on sky. The goggle eyed tit looks like Timmy off south park and is an odious little turd. Didn't he wrongly and very publicly accuse someone of racially abusing him just because the fella called him out for being a clueless buff?
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He practically snarls when he speaks, knocks me absolutely sick. He's the closest to a real life lizard man I think I've ever seen.
 

ToffeeTim said:
1) Replays need to be challenge based so the managers decide what is looked at, not the officials.

2) We need to hear the discussions between the VAR and onfield officials.

3) We need specialist video referees. It cannot be current or former referees. Clear distinct lines of responsibility.
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We need the lads who sit in the soup in the Minority Report is what we need there, Father.

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ToffeeTim said:
1) Replays need to be challenge based so the managers decide what is looked at, not the officials.

2) We need to hear the discussions between the VAR and onfield officials.

3) We need specialist video referees. It cannot be current or former referees. Clear distinct lines of responsibility.
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and new VAR officials who are not connected to the current refereeing regime so that bias by association is taken out o the considerations (ie I don't want to give that decision as the ref, 'Steve' is a mate/great guy, and it will embarrass him).

Allowing the voice traffic will allow transparency of decision making processes. What are they hiding by keeping us out of them?
 
ToffeeTim said:
1) Replays need to be challenge based so the managers decide what is looked at, not the officials.

2) We need to hear the discussions between the VAR and onfield officials.

3) We need specialist video referees. It cannot be current or former referees. Clear distinct lines of responsibility.
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The frustration with number 3 is that for all the bitching and moaning that ex-players do about how it should be ex-players in those roles, none of them have stood up and done it. It obviously works as well because the best ref at the world cup was an ex-player.
 
I want to smash the tv when i see how many ( paid) balloons are in the var room.
They get involved to justify their existence. Looking for minute daft stuff to say " aha, look , he touched his shoulder" how important we as the ref missed it.
A var were we didnt hear from them would be better.
You can usually tell from players reactions if something has been missed.
( except rs who claim everything)
 
Human error cannot be allowed with the VAR system. Without VAR, yes, human error can be accepted as long as those making said errors are re-trained and removed from their job if they don't improve quickly. This can be marked by whether they continue to make errors.

With VAR, there can not be human error and there cannot be questionable decisions as to whether the ball hit a defender's arm, whether an offside is correct or not, whether contact is made between players, etc. There are loads of people involved in the process and the whole aim of VAR is to remove human error.

If they cannot iron that out then it needs to be scrapped, but then we go back to referees cheating once again, so there is really no way to win this as an Everton fan or general lower-half-of-the-league side.
 

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