Why is Sean Dyche and people at the club constantly talking about our fans?

[Damo_1878]

Bit of bikering between the fans and a few players on the train home yesterday

Apparently Holgate was the one

 

[davek]

On what basis does he have the right to "push back" against the fans Dave?

The basis that some fans feel entitled to the moon on a balloon...even though we're in the gutter as a club. That basis.

 

[Damo_1878]

He has the right to remind fans of the challenges the club have dictated.

In "reminding" them does he have the right to "criticise" the fans?

Million dollar question

Because I say, he doesn't. Nor does anyone else within Everton Football Club including Prentice and the propaganda ministry or proxies like Alan Myers

 

[GrandOldTeam]

In "reminding" them does he have the right to "criticise" the fans?

Million dollar question

Because I say, he doesn't. Nor does anyone else within Everton Football Club including Prentice and the propaganda ministry or proxies like Alan Myers

He hasn't criticised fans.

 

[davek]

That's football. We had a west ham fan on here asking what we thought about Moyes because they hated him, after he just won them a cup. Look at their squad this season. It is built on moyes' foundations, but it will be the new manager who gets all the plaudits.

If dyche doesn't like that, he's in the wrong job. He keeps talking like a middle manager at a double glazing company, saying things like "emotional intelligence", but he isn't showing much of it at the moment.

Dyche is Dyche. He takes no prisoners.

I like it as long as he completes the task in front of him: keeping us one place above relegation.

 

[Damo_1878]

He hasn't criticised fans.

I'm not so sure looking back at some of the illustrations in the OP

I'd like people to explain to me why Sean Dyche and people at the club are constantly talking about our fans?

Rather than focusing on their own jobs

Why are they at the club constantly trying to tell us all what to think?

17 August 2024


24 August 2024

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I'm not so sure looking back at some of the illustrations in the OP

I don't see any criticism there.

 

[MikeH72]

I can only think that Dyche is paying hefty subs to this site to push favourable propaganda for himself.

 

[JLW]

You have next to no experience of what O'Brien can do. No idea if he is better than Keane, so sane decision making doesn't come into it.

I'd like to seeO'Brien played too, but it's not like Dyche is keeping proven talent on the bench.

But he is keeping proving failures in his starting 11 and changing it when we are at least 2 goals down.

 

[davek]

But he is keeping proving failures in his starting 11 and changing it when we are at least 2 goals down.

As I say, Illd like to see O'Brien as Keane is not great.

But to say Dyche is insane for not swapping them is a massive stretch.

 

[catcherintherye]

All I'm saying.

Most don't seem to accept it.

If Moyes comes in, day one he's saying its a miracle or words to that effect if we stay up.

I really like Moyes, but people seem to have certain memories of him. Yesterday he doesn't play Dixon he plays Holgate. He had his favourites, he used to bed new players in slowly etc. Maybe he's better than Dyche, but stylistically it's very similar.

 

[catcherintherye]

As I say, Illd like to see O'Brien as Keane is not great.

But to say Dyche is insane for not swapping them is a massive stretch.

That's the one decision I find odd mate. For me, keeping Doucoure and Harrison in, who played well last week, I can understand.

 

[Damo_1878]

I don't see any criticism there.

Maybe we need a poll?

 

[davek]

That's the one decision I find odd mate. For me, keeping Doucoure and Harrison in, who played well last week, I can understand.

Loyalty to Keane is at play here. They go back a long way.

Admirable in a way but - as with Ashley Young - we need to get beyond it if possible.

He gets game time against Doncaster I suppose. He's obviously raw and maybe Dyche sees that in training and is dosing him in?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Maybe we need a poll?

We'd do well to remember the direct question that's asked.

We'd do well to then think "is he lying?"

We do have big problems. Fans are very reactionary. Rightly so, because a lot of us fear relegation as an ultimate Everton, that.

But I can demonstrate countless examples just on this forum from fans who said he was great in May/summer, to needing to be sacked after 1 game.

Loads who told me we had a great window are now telling me we need to sign players desperately.

Maybe also think if he didn't call a spade, a spade - would we have fans thinking he's blagging or as you say - cynical manipulation.

He's pointed the finger at the difficulties of the club as much as he can, before it becomes counter productive/unsettling.

He knows the score. He needs to get on with it - but I can excuse him highlighting the challenge.