4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Yeah, Davey MK1 who we had and Davey MK2 who's on his way
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It was more the downpayments. McNeil was like below £5m, Maupay around £6m.
But there was value to be had. Mitoma cost Brighton £2.5m.
as I said, in theory...
Yes but the DOF model doesn't work with an owner who interferes. That's my point.
I think both were 12mm with add ons, apparently McNeil is 19mm Maupay 15mm.
I think we signed them because both were small down payments, but both are crap and most of us could have told you that in the summer. To think some of our fans thought we should have paid 40mil for him the summer before
tommye
Player Valuation: £100m
It's not my job to scout players and have extensive knowledge of who is available. I don't work in football.
What I do know is the premier league because I watch it every week. I know who is good and who isn't in our own league. Not going to pretend I know world football though, but our recruitment team certainly should.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
Maybe he thought Lampard was actually going to try and pass the ball.so Maupay might do alright. He's not a useless player and I actually think a fine backup for a team like us. We're just horribly coached.
We always seem to be appointing new managers in transfer windows and there seems to be a tug of war each time with the incoming manager and the DOF, with Kenwright floating around in the background "sealing deals".
I cannot understand why we still have uncertainty around the DOF position - they should determine our football strategy, the model of club we want to be, identify recruitment strategy and buy players to that model and recruit a manager to fit.
I've no idea if Thelwell does that. I've no idea what his remit is.
They were hoping that would be done already, it hasn't been. 'Watch this space' as our feared leader might say.
It should have been done in the summer, mate. Thelwell doesn't want to be fully in charge of recruitment. He's taking the role seriously trying to overhaul the club - that's great. But there's levels of priority isn't there.
He needs time, but getting in better players buys everyone time, manager and DoF included. If the DoF isn't confident in his ability to do that, then go and get in a person who has a track record with recruitment who can just focus on that remit and presenting those options. We have the team of scouts there, some good people, same with data analysts. Just nobody heading them up.
Colonel Getafe
Player Valuation: £25m
If the answer is not a hard 'YES', then at very, very, VERY least strong questions need to be asked.
Frank will be under HUGE pressure for his job (rightly so, the performances have been largely terrible) BUT the Director of Football must also be held to the same level of account, not get away scott free because he is not in the public eye.
Someone said yes to a £12-15m Maupay deal (clauses depending), said yes to a £15-20m McNeil deal (clauses depending), spent what must have been 6 weeks trying to sign a 32 year old CM from Paris for no other reason than he played for us once.
On the one hand, I get we had a limited budget so we could only do deals we could spread payments out or have incentive clauses, on the other hand, the good signings were the easy ones anyone could have done. Torn between saying he needs the benefit of time and saying he's a problem. Hard to tell at this club.
Final point: if a bloke who had a career history of shorts stints at the mighty Preston and Derby and New York Rovers (Wolves too of course, but lets not pretend anyone other than the Portugese agent they had there was in charge of transfers) went anywhere else would 1 person on this forum utter the words "we've missed a trick not getting him" if he stayed at NY or went anywhere else.
Frank will be under HUGE pressure for his job (rightly so, the performances have been largely terrible) BUT the Director of Football must also be held to the same level of account, not get away scott free because he is not in the public eye.
Someone said yes to a £12-15m Maupay deal (clauses depending), said yes to a £15-20m McNeil deal (clauses depending), spent what must have been 6 weeks trying to sign a 32 year old CM from Paris for no other reason than he played for us once.
On the one hand, I get we had a limited budget so we could only do deals we could spread payments out or have incentive clauses, on the other hand, the good signings were the easy ones anyone could have done. Torn between saying he needs the benefit of time and saying he's a problem. Hard to tell at this club.
Final point: if a bloke who had a career history of shorts stints at the mighty Preston and Derby and New York Rovers (Wolves too of course, but lets not pretend anyone other than the Portugese agent they had there was in charge of transfers) went anywhere else would 1 person on this forum utter the words "we've missed a trick not getting him" if he stayed at NY or went anywhere else.
ToffeeDevil
Player Valuation: £15m
well what i was trying to say is, if $35 for this quality looks astronomical but that's the going price, then how can you blame thelwell for spending what the going rate is for that level of quality?
not great purchases it turns out, sure, but you could argue that this is what sub-20mil purchases get you
Lampard has been slammed - rightly so - by fans for trying to play possession based which is what you are saying makes Maupay alright.
We don't have players elsewhere on the pitch capable of consistently playing to Maupay's very limited strengths. He's not useless and he's a fine alternative option. He's not a back up to our main striker because our main striker is a completely different type of player.
It doesn't matter who the manager is, if one of your strikers is a DCL who can't stay fit and the other is Maupay, then you are never going to be able to have a consistent way of playing. That was where the mistake was.
If we'd had already brought in Dom's 'replacement/back up' earlier in August, and Maupay was a nice little extra to change up how we played, then that's fine, he's good for that.
McNeil is honestly good for nothing. I'm not even hating on the lad, he clearly has some modicum of talent but whatever it was was ground out of him at Burnley and he just doesn't seem to have anything to his game to succeed in the modern-day Premier League. He's like a throwback to a mid 2000s player.
Brighton's front line tonight cost £5m combined
ToffeeDevil
Player Valuation: £15m
who in that front line was a summer transfer from this past season? don't strawman, we're talking about the maupay/mcneil purchases vs the going rate this past summer - mitoma was from summer 2021, when thelwell wasn't even here
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