Ukraine invasion and the sanction of Oligarchs

[Azza]

Had to read it twice to make sure I had woken up properly

Remember when a quarter of the population took to the streets, they were not actually protesting against China they were celebrating with their umbrellas.

 

[catcherintherye]

I agree no one wants a war - but these soft sanctions will do nothing to deter someone like Putin.

So people have to either accept whats going on in Ukraine or they take a firm stand to it.

A slap on the wrist sanctions and some virtue signalling by politicians on social media isn't going to get him to back off.

Hes already priced in sanctions. The oligarchs have already priced it in. The assets will have long gone. Abramovich, Usmanov et al have all moved their assets yonks ago. All these sanctions do, is hurt the poorest in society.

That's the reality, people wont want to hear it, and maybe people wont care, but that's the harsh reality of the situation.

The Tories have announced 2 rounds of sanctions as well, they are not going to just keep announcing sanctions if the facts on the ground dont change.

 

[BlueToff]

A large amount of money but still nothing that directly means the stadium won't go through like the doom mongers want us to believe.

Tbh I don't want us to have anything to do with him

I'd like us to sever ties with him right now, because he's a crap owner for one

 

[BlueToff]

Cant see it personally mate.

I imagine (and hope) things will ease within the coming weeks and some compromise is made.

There's not gonna be any compromise here mate

 

[Dixieslaces]

Again this "dictators/tyrants/irrational" is parroting the news - we're being bombarded with this language 24/7. It makes it sound like he's the leader of some small country that can be easily "vanquished".

I'm sure other parts of the world said the same about Bush and Blair and Iraq etc.

We might not agree with the reasons but he will have reasons.

Indeed, I have no time for any of those mentioned, all tyrants in their own way, juts with a Western lilt. Blair and Bush should have been in the Hague 100%. As others before and maybe in the future will also need to be held accountable, far too often they are not.

 

[Glasshalffull]

I dont think anybody is naming the argument that Putin is not a war mongerer. His actions are a breach of international law.

Hes not the only one to have ever done it though.

Wow! Who'd have thought you'd ever say something that I couldn't take the slightest issue with, mate? I doff my cap.

 

[Azza]

 

[catcherintherye]

Wow! Who'd have thought you'd ever say something that I couldn't take the slightest issue with, mate? I doff my cap.

My broken clock moment!

 

[catcherintherye]

Well that is that resolved then. Panic averted.

 

[ElGato]

Putin wants a legacy he doesn't a nuclear war.

You can't have a legacy if your country is frazzled to bits by 50 hydrogen bombs (or not a very good one)

Call his bluff because no one wants nuclear war.

Sorry to interrupt sir, but NATO are on line 1

 

[catcherintherye]

Tbh I don't want us to have anything to do with him

I'd like us to sever ties with him right now, because he's a crap owner for one

That's not really how it works though.

It's not our choice. It's his company. He will sell as and when he wants too.

 

[nsno-chris]

Money over the lives of innocent civilians.

Proper Tory, you should not associate with the PEOPLES club

 

[degsy]

Nobody is in favour of Putin, but they are in favour of consistency.

It wouldnt make sense for Putin to invade Estonia or Lithuania (who I believe are in the EU).

It's time for the war mongering to stop, and some calm heads to go and negotiate.

As for China into Taiwan, maybe. That may well be a very good thing for Taiwan, as it has been for the people of Hong Kong to be freed from the tyranny of British imperialism.

A friend's sons mate in Vilnius has had his call up papers.

 

[BlueToff]

That's not really how it works though.

It's not our choice. It's his company. He will sell as and when he wants too.

I know mate, I was more just saying, he's a bit of a lunatic along with Moshiri - this is from a footballing perspective here, nothing to do with the war

 

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