New Everton Manager

[little elfin]

David Moyes loves Everton?

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Politics relates to every facet of life. I couldn't get on board with any Everton manager ever having called Thatcher 'inspirational'. Disowning your own club stuff that

I can't stand thatcher either. But personally myself, i believe that any fan player or employee of Evertons political/personal beliefs are none of my business. So long as you are doing your job and helping Everton win, then everything is alright with me.

 

[TheBigIguana]

I can't believe how little I care about who I want for the next manager. It's more about who I DONT want at this point.

Yeah this is how I feel. There's a bunch of people I'd shrug at and want to see how they got on. I'd be raging if it were Nuno, Dyche, Moyes or someone of that ilk. No upside and dire football. Worst of both worlds.

 

[Fridge full of bear]

Messi remaining Messi as he gets older and the team around him gets worse is a tougher and tougher ask. What he did this year was ridiculous and it still wasn't quite enough.

Have to disagree. Ter Stegen was running a +4.4 till Jan end/Feb on his post shot xG. In the fixtures that followed, his post shot xG+/- dropped to -1.0 He was dropping clanger after clanger every match, not saving shots he was meant to save.

Even an average GK probably would have won them enough points in that stretch to make it through. Not to mention Atleti vastly overperforming every key metric (Llorente having 12 goals on an xG of 4.3 should give you an idea) why are you assuming it would hold next season?

All of this is immaterial though, Koeman will crash and burn, it's his second season syndrome after all.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Have to disagree. Ter Stegen was running a +4.4 till Jan end/Feb on his post shot xG for matches. In the fixtures that followed, his post shot xG+/- dropped to -1.0 He was dropping clanger after clanger every match, not saving shots he was meant to save.

Even an average GK probably would have won them enough points in that stretch to make it through. Not to mention Atleti vastly overperforming every kep metric, why are you assuming it would hold next season?

All of this is immaterial though, Koeman will crash and burn, it's his second season syndrome after all.

You can't win matches with just good goalkeeping. That may have hurt them late, but they got there because of Messi and they'll only get back because of Messi.

 

[Fridge full of bear]

You can't win matches with just good goalkeeping. That may have hurt them late, but they got there because of Messi and they'll only get back because of Messi.

Fair enough on Messi, he will need to put up a GOAT season again if they are to stand a chance.

Team isn't terrible as you are making it to be though. De Jong's great, would take him at Everton in a heartbeat (can say that about tons of players, but he's great). Pedri is shaping up to be an interesting player and if Fati can get back to his pre-injury form not a half bad team. Defence is terrible though.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Fair enough on Messi, he will need to put up a GOAT season again if they are to stand a chance.

Team isn't terrible as you are making it to be though. De Jong's great, would take him at Everton in a heartbeat (can say that about tons of players, but he's great). Pedri is shaping up to be an interesting player and if Fati can get back to his pre-injury form not a half bad team. Defence is terrible though.

It's a pretty poor team by their standards. They'd struggle for top four here except that they'd still have Messi. He's papering over everything.

 

[Fridge full of bear]

It's a pretty poor team by their standards. They'd struggle for top four here except that they'd still have Messi. He's papering over everything.

La liga in general is poor right now. I meant not a bad team within the context of that league. They are not competing in the UCL anytime soon and yup would stuggle for top 4 in the PL.

 

[NeilA1878]

Have to disagree. Ter Stegen was running a +4.4 till Jan end/Feb on his post shot xG. In the fixtures that followed, his post shot xG+/- dropped to -1.0 He was dropping clanger after clanger every match, not saving shots he was meant to save.

Even an average GK probably would have won them enough points in that stretch to make it through. Not to mention Atleti vastly overperforming every key metric (Llorente having 12 goals on an xG of 4.3 should give you an idea) why are you assuming it would hold next season?

All of this is immaterial though, Koeman will crash and burn, it's his second season syndrome after all.

If you are talking Atleti and xG /xPoints you are ignoring 7 or 8 years of evidence that they outperform it massively (except for 19/20). And most of the time by 15-20 points. Just doesn't work for them...

 

[whiteshadow]

Fair enough, I don't disagree with you. But with the backing and the stadium etc, i want to go beyond what we were when Moyes left us. Appreciate there are steps to take to get there but I don't want to hit a glass ceiling with him.

He never had money before. We all know how important finances are.

 

[Terrarian]

I'm just going to back whoever it's given to, had enough at this point. Struggling to light a flame for the coming season in the belly if I'm honest. I don't think I have ever felt as disconnected from football as I do now.

 

[garyw]

TBF The whole of Goodison Park thanked him and wished him well at his last game. It's what he said and tried to do afterwards that shot him in the foot.

I certainly never

 

[Eggs]

….from what I can see, very little change in this market;

 

[Kantareller]

There is only one person right for the job and that is Davey Moyes.

- Here to build something long term
- Loves Everton, knows Everton
- His teams are always well-drilled, balanced and fit
- Has shown this season that he is a class manager
- Always had an eye for the right player

Absolute no brainer for me.

He does not love Everton. Never did.

He enjoyed his time here and sounds grateful for it but he never loved Everton. And it's fair enough, you don't have to love your job but I get the feeling he fancies West Ham more than Everton.

 

[Blueclouds]

Spurs are also looking for a manager so we probably fighting them for the best one available