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catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
None of the above is connected to Usmanov or Moshiri (who the last time I checked are not Chinese).
Chinese is a socialist country, is lifting more people out of poverty than western countries, and is leading the world in terms of economic development, growth rates and development. It is far from perfect, but it is contributing positively on different ways.
Unfortunately the only person who seems to be stooping to depths here is yourself, in trying to defend the USA. It is a country built on the backs of slavery, has militarily intervened in more countries than any other, to prop up regimes like Pinochet, Apartheid and others. All to prop up the greed and racism of a failed state.
Its last President opened up camps, and had children living in them, separated from their parents, for no reason other than being migrants.
The same President, and the wider political party intimidated vote counters, and made a conscious effort to prevent black people from voting based solely on their race.
I'm not being horrible here, I'm not going to be lectured on morality by people who stand in support of the above. That's the tip of the iceberg as well. Thank goodness there are people who will call it out.
It's also not about sides. It is about calling out behaviour honestly, and acknowledging it's not just Putin as the only bad person in the world, or China for that matter. NATO allies like Turkey, Saudi Arabia etc commit awful atrocities against their own people and others. You might be best opening your mind to what's happening a little, rather than calling those that do "stains" on anything.
lancs blue
Player Valuation: £35m
The fact remains kenwright will be down his local launderette trying to clean his moshri money. His only dilemma - persil or daz?
Can I kill your dog and I’d pay you a grand and you just shut up about it cos I’ve contributed to your financial well-being. Or perhaps I can kill your neighbours dog too. You should be idolising me for being generous.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Well that adds nothing to the discussion I'm afraid.
I was pointing out that Russia are not the only country to invade another country post 1945. I stand by that.
As for the inner circle, neither Usmanov or particularly Moshiri are in any way associated with Putins Inner circle. They are not MPs in their Parliament, and are not on any of the senior committees.
They are no more inner circle than John Henry, or Joel Glazier is the inner circle of Trumps America. They are far less inner circle than PIF to Saudis war on Yemen.
Yet I'm being pulled out for pointing these quite obvious things out.
Unfortunately, it is not simple as you put it. If you ignore large swathes of evidence it is simple. If you engage with all of the evidence in its entirety it's actually quite complex.
gwladysnight
Player Valuation: £10m
China has 1 million Uyghurs living in Internment camps where women are tortured, raped and sterilised. China are guilty of genocide and ethnic cleansing. The USA may have its problems but to compare the two is frankly absurd.
As I said I am not a fan of the USA or its political system but to compare voter intimidation in the States to ethnic cleansing in China is horrendous. You have just taken Whataboutism to a new level in a bizarre attempt to defend Moshiri, Usmanov and even Putin.
Funny you should bring up the ex President of the United States because you sound like one of his supporters trying to defend the indefensible. Frankly I do not care what other clubs do but to Everton is special. That means having nothing to do with USM and it's owners, who are clearly part of war mongerer Putin's inner circle.
hippopotamus
Player Valuation: £1m
Nah, it'simple. You're just talking bollox and comparing penis to finger.
gwladysnight
Player Valuation: £10m
Andrei Skoch the second-biggest shareholder in USM is a member of the Russian parliament.
As for the rest please stop the whataboutism. As Evertonians we should be putting our house in order.
mightymoyes
Player Valuation: £70m
he may as well get in on the act seeing money laundering is the UK top business along with arms dealing.
ForeverBlue92
Player Valuation: £80m
EverTheOptimist
Player Valuation: £8m
Freed from a democratic way of life into Communist way of life where freedoms are nil, no free speech, no right to protest, being watched and controlled at a systematic level, such a beacon of civilization is China post Mao, the Taiwanese have no desire to be Chinese, and the people of Hong Kong are still protesting against forced Chinese manipulation of their freedoms.
I never knew you were such a Marxist Leninist Stalinist Maoist.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
ForeverBlue92
Player Valuation: £80m
Andrei Skoch has nothing to do with Everton.
When PIF leave Newcastle
Qatar are stripped of the world cup and leave PSG
When UAE and the Chinese leave Man City
When Abramovich leaves Chelsea
When the 20 PL clubs including your beloved Liverpool give their Qatari blood TV money back to BEIN Sports
When the Chinese leave Wolves
After all that happens and football is pure again maybe then I'll agree USM should leave.
Until that day comes I aint advocating cutting my nose off to spite my face and neither should anyone else.
Regardless of what happens at EFC it wont affect Putin and the Ukraine situation.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I am an anti-imperialist. I'm glad the British were booted out of countries they invaded.
Werent the Hong Protests in support of Trump, and started to protect an abusive male who had murdered his partner being put on trial? They sound a delightful bunch.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
That's it.
It's a massive reach. And yes, when everyone else agrees, I will agree too.
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