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Suddenly 5th is ok for you. Dave I recalled you said there is no difference between 5th and 15th.

Nope. By your logic lol if there is anything go wrong, it is the 2nd year Syndrome. Don't be double standard in this issue.

Your bought him up again. In here please. https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/martinez-new-belgium-head-coach.90386/page-245

Yea under Moyes.

What a load of tosh. Now you move your goal post to gross spend not net spend. Yea the current Sky6 must be standing still and not buying more quality with cash. Achievement? Under Moyes of course, he had a net spend of about £2m per season throughout and yet we were an established top 7 team...

He moves the goal post whenever he wants.

And you can't use the scenerio a few years back to compare. The current league is more competitive. Move your goal post when you want. Slate Moshiri - small or negative spend. Slate Koeman - gross spend so he needs to get top 4 even the Sky6 bar Spurs outspent him. Win-win.

A replacement should have been lined up before Lukaku was sold. That was the problem. I think the overall quality of the squad has improved while getting rid of the deadwood is ongoing.

I think it's slightly more than double. If people are complaining spending £45m-£50m on Sigurdsson just imagine roughly the same amount are spent on McCarthy and Kone now.

I was responding to your post regarding Koeman being mugged off by no mark clubs as you claimed. If you ignore the questions, that's ok.

So may I ask you once again. You seem to ignore things that you cannot answer. You are saying Koeman was mugged off by no mark clubs. I am seeking your opinion on this. All are big money transfer at the time. £13.5m Niasse £13m McCarthy £9.5m Funes Mori £6m Kone £20m in 2013 a lot of money at...

If you are like dave pointing everything at 2013 yes maybe but honestly Deulofeu had done nothing to show he is good enough as a PL footballer. The squad has improved as a whole so I won't just pick out negativity.

His performance had shown he is not good enough to play in PL, under two Everton managers. Not necessarily mean he is not a ok player maybe he can play better in another league.

Let's say this. When he came in, I thought he is a sugar daddy. Of course he has done an awful lot of good stuff since he became the majority shareholder but I think it's unlikely we would suddenly going to spend £100m on top of players sale per season (well have to admit I had such hope of that...

Moshiri is now the accountant who knows how to run a club aka business well. If we do not have a healthy net spend before 31 August I honestly do not think he is the one we all hope for.

Did you moan when a certain clown spent roughly the same amount but got 11th and 12th in a row? Mugged off by two-bit clubs...Do you mean Wigan or some SA club. £13.5m Niasse £13m McCarthy £9.5m Funes Mori £6m Kone all were big money at the time but your beloved one was mugged off but you did...

He is putting pressure on the board for delivering more signings. Can see a net spend of £30m after the ins and outs.